Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
So, does anyone have any info on this whole Red Hulk arc coming up in January?
There are many rumors / speculation. One is that the Red Hulk is the Hulk's spirit / mind / whatever that was separated when Banner was blasted by the rays that Banner allowed Tony to beam onto him. If you look at the fight closely, you see Hulk disintigrating away with Caeira, yet Banner remains unaffected. Other rumors are that it's zomling, who can grow very strong, very fast, and somehow grabbed onto Hulk's essence or what-not.
The green light transitioning to red light seems to be a hint at something though. We do know that the Red Hulk will apparently punch out a Watcher and will be extremely powerful, and perhaps a killer.
Originally posted by Kutulu
There are many rumors / speculation. One is that the Red Hulk is the Hulk's spirit / mind / whatever that was separated when Banner was blasted by the rays that Banner allowed Tony to beam onto him. If you look at the fight closely, you see Hulk disintigrating away with Caeira, yet Banner remains unaffected. Other rumors are that it's zomling, who can grow very strong, very fast, and somehow grabbed onto Hulk's essence or what-not.The green light transitioning to red light seems to be a hint at something though. We do know that the Red Hulk will apparently punch out a Watcher and will be extremely powerful, and perhaps a killer.
whatever this new hulk it may be , (even though banner as teh hulk may well be gone forever as everyting has suggested) i hope the red hulk has some relation to banner's hulk persona and claims hulk throne as the strongest there is! Any one think red hulk coudl be rick jones...mayb the only way to save him was merge hulk perona to him ??
*Spoilers... somewhat*
After Rick Jones gets put in the hospital and is almost dying, Iron Man knows the only way to save him is to inject him with a sample of Bruce Banner's blood. Fortunately for old Rick Jones, Iron Man had taken a sample of Bruce's blood before they put away. Hesitantly Tony injects Rick with the blood while everyone is off fighting crime. The blood saves Rick, but later the heroes find out a terrible secret. A new Hulk is causing rampage throughout the city. The heroes are stunned and confused, but only Tony knows for sure, and what Tony knows might hurt others. For what Tony knows is that---
The Red Hulk is coming to town!
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Originally posted by Kento
I wonder how long it'll be for Red and Green Hulk to fight if Banner isn't Red Hulk. Hulk won't like somebody taking his name.
I can't wait till one of the Hulks punches out the Watcher, and the forum all cries PIS like they did when Hulk defeated Sentry. It's funny to read the difference of what actually happens in the comic versus the Hulk hate that goes on in these forums. People in these forums have basically tried to devalue every single feat from the WWH saga, some even claiming that WWH was actually weaker than his normal self.
I can understand disliking a character, but when people get to the point that they ignore on-panel evidence, just seems a bit overboard to me.
Example: I may not like Superman much, but I look at his feat of pushing Warworld and think "god damn, he's one strong guy". Hypothetically if Hulk did the same exact feat, people would say PIS! and try and find a way to make the feat invalid, despite it being shown on panel. So for one character, the feat is a boost to his powers and solidifies his character, but for Hulk, the feat is PIS, doesn't count, and shouldn't have happened, so far as arguing the physics of the situation.
The writers have hinted at the Red Hulk / Green Hulk fight, and I can't wait to see how it goes.
Originally posted by KutuluHow can you cry pis on a whole new character.
I can't wait till one of the Hulks punches out the Watcher, and the forum all cries PIS like they did when Hulk defeated Sentry. It's funny to read the difference of what actually happens in the comic versus the Hulk hate that goes on in these forums. People in these forums have basically tried to devalue every single feat from the WWH saga, some even claiming that WWH was actually weaker than his normal self.
That's like if I made 'Fecal Matterman', and I had him punch out Odin in one shot.
How can you possibly cry pis on a whole new character?
Also, if Reddy punches out Uatu... he should beat Green Hulk pretty badly, no?
Originally posted by KutuluSo how strong is the Watcher? Marvel is really not what I read. Heh who said WWH was weaker than normal Hulk? He broke Colossus's arms and he's suppose to be weaker? Though I do think his durability wasn't that high seeing as how he bled a lot.
I can't wait till one of the Hulks punches out the Watcher, and the forum all cries PIS like they did when Hulk defeated Sentry. It's funny to read the difference of what actually happens in the comic versus the Hulk hate that goes on in these forums. People in these forums have basically tried to devalue every single feat from the WWH saga, some even claiming that WWH was actually weaker than his normal self.I can understand disliking a character, but when people get to the point that they ignore on-panel evidence, just seems a bit overboard to me.
Example: I may not like Superman much, but I look at his feat of pushing Warworld and think "god damn, he's one strong guy". Hypothetically if Hulk did the same exact feat, people would say PIS! and try and find a way to make the feat invalid, despite it being shown on panel. So for one character, the feat is a boost to his powers and solidifies his character, but for Hulk, the feat is PIS, doesn't count, and shouldn't have happened, so far as arguing the physics of the situation.
The writers have hinted at the Red Hulk / Green Hulk fight, and I can't wait to see how it goes.
Well I could see some stuff by Hulk being considered PIS that he's done. How can somebody with pure strength affect energy? Though yea I get what you mean. I've not really seen anything Superman can do that puts him way above Hulk...pure strength anyways.
Hmm so it would seem Banner vs Rick. It's either going to be an epic battle or a suck battle as Banner just tries to get Rick to turn back. I hope it's an actual fight though not something that's two panels long then something happens. Though we'll have to see how strong Red is and if Green even keeps his power up from Sakaar or goes back to his original levels.
Originally posted by Kento
So how strong is the Watcher? Marvel is really not what I read. Heh who said WWH was weaker than normal Hulk? He broke Colossus's arms and he's suppose to be weaker? Though I do think his durability wasn't that high seeing as how he bled a lot.
It was Horrificus who said that. Don't ask; people in the versus forums go to no end to try and invalidate most of the WWH series. Watchers are considered to be Skyfather level in general; when Galactus ate when in a What If, it powered him up the equivilant of eating an entire planet, simply from consuming one of them.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
How can you cry pis on a whole new character.That's like if I made 'Fecal Matterman', and I had him punch out Odin in one shot.
How can you possibly cry pis on a whole new character?Also, if Reddy punches out Uatu... he should beat Green Hulk pretty badly, no?
Good question, but that's KMC for you.
Originally posted by KutuluExample: I may not like Superman much, but I look at his feat of pushing Warworld and think "god damn, he's one strong guy".
Yes but did you know that they failed to tell you that he dived into the sun to get a massive power boost. Im like "Why didnt you tell me that ****" , and the cant see the problem with not giving me that information.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Hypothetically if Hulk did the same exact feat, people would say PIS! and try and find a way to make the feat invalid, despite it being shown on panel. So for one character, the feat is a boost to his powers and solidifies his character, but for Hulk, the feat is PIS, doesn't count, and shouldn't have happened, so far as arguing the physics of the situation.
The thing is its been said on panel that the Hulk has limitless strength. The problem I have with Superman is that there are loads of feats with him having problems with planetoids (small planets) but then he gets to pull something that is bigger than the whole solar system. If he had lots of strength feats on the level of mageddon then I wouldnt think its PIS, ive been asking for me feats and till this day I have Jacobite.....I dunno maybe there are but I found the WWH vs Superman thread very irritating.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I found the WWH vs Superman thread very irritating.
That's a mild way of putting it. I know that Supes was sundipped for the warworld feat, but Hulk has plenty of feats, in continuity and still canon, that eclipse even that: such as thunderclapping the Dark Cosmos, shaking countless dimensions in his fight with Ironclad, etc.. Everytime someone brings up the mageddon feat, I bring up thunderclapping the dark cosmos and people cry PIS! Well so was the mageddon feat!
I mean Hulk was created for the purpose of literally having no limit to his strength. People also said it was PIS when he broke the crimson bands of Cytorrak, and PIS when he broke adamantium several times throughout his career. Well guess what people, that's the whole point of his character is that his strength is literally unlimited. If another character is 10 times stronger, as in the one comic panel, all Hulk has to do is get 10 times as mad to be stronger than them. In an old crossover Hulk even knocked PC Superman millions of miles into outer space with one punch, but things like that are glossed over.
Some people just can't stand the thought of Superman losing, even to an above top tier like Hulk was during WWH. Now I will plainly say that regular Hulk would lose to Supes, but WWH showed his "potential" levels of power that were always talked about to be actually shown. People complain about the WWH / Sentry fight since not enough of the city was destroyed, when less damage was done during the Doomsday / DOS Superman fight. It's funny how something can apply to one character and not another. That's KMC for ya though.
People refuse to give Hulk credit in any major fight because he doesn't fly and doesn't have Superspeed feats. Hulk could straight up beat Odin, Galactus, and then pound on a Celestial and posters and KMC would still say he loses to Superman. Such is the way of KMC.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
*Spoilers... somewhat*After Rick Jones gets put in the hospital and is almost dying, Iron Man knows the only way to save him is to inject him with a sample of Bruce Banner's blood. Fortunately for old Rick Jones, Iron Man had taken a sample of Bruce's blood before they put away. Hesitantly Tony injects Rick with the blood while everyone is off fighting crime. The blood saves Rick, but later the heroes find out a terrible secret. A new Hulk is causing rampage throughout the city. The heroes are stunned and confused, but only Tony knows for sure, and what Tony knows might hurt others. For what Tony knows is that---
The Red Hulk is coming to town!
It looks like Rick Jones will be te Red Hulk. That sucks.
Originally posted by Kutulu
That's a mild way of putting it. I know that Supes was sundipped for the warworld feat, but Hulk has plenty of feats, in continuity and still canon, that eclipse even that: such as thunderclapping the Dark Cosmos, shaking countless dimensions in his fight with Ironclad, etc.. Everytime someone brings up the mageddon feat, I bring up thunderclapping the dark cosmos and people cry PIS! Well so was the mageddon feat!I mean Hulk was created for the purpose of literally having no limit to his strength. People also said it was PIS when he broke the crimson bands of Cytorrak, and PIS when he broke adamantium several times throughout his career. Well guess what people, that's the whole point of his character is that his strength is literally unlimited. If another character is 10 times stronger, as in the one comic panel, all Hulk has to do is get 10 times as mad to be stronger than them. In an old crossover Hulk even knocked PC Superman millions of miles into outer space with one punch, but things like that are glossed over.
Some people just can't stand the thought of Superman losing, even to an above top tier like Hulk was during WWH. Now I will plainly say that regular Hulk would lose to Supes, but WWH showed his "potential" levels of power that were always talked about to be actually shown. People complain about the WWH / Sentry fight since not enough of the city was destroyed, when less damage was done during the Doomsday / DOS Superman fight. It's funny how something can apply to one character and not another. That's KMC for ya though.
People refuse to give Hulk credit in any major fight because he doesn't fly and doesn't have Superspeed feats. Hulk could straight up beat Odin, Galactus, and then pound on a Celestial and posters and KMC would still say he loses to Superman. Such is the way of KMC.
Good post but at any rate I did give the majority to supes in the end becsue he has more versatility but I see him losing in a slugfest.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It looks like Rick Jones will be te Red Hulk. That sucks.
Well it makes sense when you think about it. The Banner Hulk has been shot into space it makes sense that Rick Jones will take his place in the mean time.
You know if Hulk stays at WW levels I would be fine with that. I think this WWH was the coolest version of the Hulk. 😮💨
Originally posted by Kutulu People complain about the WWH / Sentry fight since not enough of the city was destroyed, when less damage was done during the Doomsday / DOS Superman fight. It's funny how something can apply to one character and not another. That's KMC for ya though. [/B]Well Sentry was unleashing a tornado of energy that was suppose to equal his one million exploding suns while Doomsday nor Superman have any energy attacks like that. And the Doomsday/Superman fight created a lot of damage from just their punches.
Originally posted by AlfheimUm when did Banner get shot into space after WWH? He's underground last time I checked.
Good post but at any rate I did give the majority to supes in the end becsue he has more versatility but I see him losing in a slugfest.Well it makes sense when you think about it. The Banner Hulk has been shot into space it makes sense that Rick Jones will take his place in the mean time.
You know if Hulk stays at WW levels I would be fine with that. I think this WWH was the coolest version of the Hulk. 😮💨
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