What do you believe is socially wrong with these Nations? [Merged]

Originally posted by inimalist
Sure thing comrade 😉

I actually believe in a little thing called personal accountability. You know, where you take care of yourself.

Wow. what a Right Wing comment, just because we believe in health care for everyone doesn't make us Communists. I might as well call you a fascist for your beliefs.

Not everyone is capable of taking care of themselves and they don't deserve to just die for that. What about the disabled or mentally handicapped? What about people who are born into a bad situation and can't escape it. There's nothing wrong with caring about more then yourself.

seems that since we pay taxes here in the states, everyone would have free healthcare. but it's not a perfect world.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Poor and inaccessible health care
Very high crime rate
A crumbling public school system
Collapsing social security system
Religion taking over the government
Racism
Homophobia
A steadily increasing division between the richer and poor classes
Obsession with material possessions and celebrities.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm so glad we have you to point out our flaws 🙄

The question was asked...

Well since you so firmly believe this:

Originally posted by Starhawk
I actually don't believe in interfering in other countries.

Originally posted by Tangible God
The Mexican border. Or is that Geographical?

Originally posted by Strangelove
Well since you so firmly believe this: Then don't criticize a country that isn't your own, m'kay, hypocrite?

I believe I made it clear that my belief was not to go over into another country and force myself into their problems. That has nothing to do with answering a question about that country.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I believe I made it clear that my belief was not to go over into another country and force myself into their problems. That has nothing to do with answering a question about that country.

It is highly inappropriate to stick your nose into another country's affairs, however. Which is what you said you are against. And it is what you're doing now.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I daresay that's a deeply flawed piece of logic. Answering a question, sure. What is the capital? About how many people live there? Who is the President? Those questions are fine and dandy.

It is highly inappropriate to stick your nose into another country's affairs, however. Which is what you said you are against. And it is what you're doing now.

Well said

Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow. what a Right Wing comment, just because we believe in health care for everyone doesn't make us Communists. I might as well call you a fascist for your beliefs.

Not everyone is capable of taking care of themselves and they don't deserve to just die for that. What about the disabled or mentally handicapped? What about people who are born into a bad situation and can't escape it. There's nothing wrong with caring about more then yourself.

So someone is a facist if they beleive in people fending for themselves?!? 🤨

You really need to learn what a facist is 😐

And in terms of what you are saying, you cannot force charity on people, it has to come from choice, not force. Otherwise its not charity, its just those with power taking rights away from others

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes but part of living in a society is accepting that you pay for everyone, not just yourself.

Freedom >>> Society 😉

Originally posted by Starhawk
Actually your pretty low on the list as far as best health care int he world. Canada isn't much better, Europe kicks both our asses according to the UN.

And since when has the UN been right about anything? 😐

Hell they can't even do what they were created to do: STOP GENOCIDE!

The UN is a PR club. That's all.

1) Strangelove, I said I didn't believe in going into another country and forcing my way of life on them. Answering a question that was asked about a country is completely different. I'm not forcing anything. An opinion was requested and thats what I gave.

2) Grimm, I was making an ironic comment on how he called me a communist for suggesting that health care should be free. And yes it is right to make people pay taxes that go to benefit everyone, because if you left it up to them we would have no social programs at all and many people would suffer. Part of living in a society is understanding that not everyone is capable of helping themselves or taking care of themselves, and they should not have to suffer and die for that.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Freedom >>> Society 😉

I am so glad I live in Canada.

So are we

Originally posted by chithappens
So are we

Thats fine, instead of taxes you pay for health insurance. And if you happen to catch a serious illness, you can be bankrupted by the medical costs.

petty, just petty LOL

Originally posted by chithappens
petty, just petty LOL

In what way? I just pointed out that instead of taxes you pay for your medical care in the form of insurance costs. And up here in Canada if we get seriously ill, we don't have to pay thousands in medical costs that would bankrupt us. So ironically in the end you guys can end up paying more over time then we do.

I did not bring that up when saying something about you living in America. It was unrelated.

No I was explaining one of the many reasons I prefer living north of the border and also defending one of my original points about the US health care system.