Sagat vs Geese Howard

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Yep

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
the low tiger would be the only thing he should be concerned about.. IMO... high tiger isnt as good for pressuring.. and tiger canon is epic lulz.. *ducks it* /yawn
He does that low too don't he?

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
and meh @ ryo.. I only care about the Buriki-ONE "Mr. Karate" Ryo anyways... now NGBC Robert on the other hand... *almost throws up* 😘
I was gonna buy it, but just noticed King ain't in it. 😠

what's wrong with NGBC robert? i thought he was pretty cool 😕

brain, you suicidal maniac! you mentioned king in a thread that has emperor in it.
*RUNS FOR COVER*

Not surprised that this still is going on with Brain debating.

He strongly believes Geese loses to any other character after all.

Anybody tough. He's 0 & 3 as a boss(sometimes against unfresh opponents too 🙁 ) in these games but I'm supposed to think he's a winner? Is there any boss who's fought & lost to the hero in a fair one more times than this guy? Let me know when he stops being a punching bag for whatever hero he runs across.

Originally posted by Sado22
what's wrong with NGBC robert? i thought he was pretty cool 😕
Hasn't aged well. His sprite looks like a fvcking racoon. It's sad that they leave him out for so long instead of ripoff & then they have him looking so old fartish. He's another character too cool to be mishandled like this.
Originally posted by Sado22
brain, you suicidal maniac! you mentioned king in a thread that has emperor in it.
*RUNS FOR COVER*
Emp has a crush on Ellen 😄

Anybody tough.

beat Jeff Bogard. stop right there, foo. the STRONGEST fighter of South Town.

He's 0 & 3 as a boss(sometimes against unfresh opponents too ) in these games but I'm supposed to think he's a winner?

-Ryo was a steady, PERFECT win till he went all "Dumbassagat" on Ryo. and he wasn't even affected by it. hardly a "loss", foo!
-Terry was a loss.
-and FFRB was the most vague pis-ridden event ever chornicled. makes no sense since Klantis pulls stuff out of his keister all the time (and even sucked on kyo in a FF story)

Is there any boss who's fought & lost

Sagat, Mr. Karate, Rugal

to the hero in a fair one more times than this guy? Let me know when he stops being a punching bag for whatever hero he runs across.

his name is bison

Hasn't aged well. His sprite looks like a fvcking racoon. It's sad that they leave him out for so long instead of ripoff & then they have him looking so old fartish. He's another character too cool to be mishandled like this.

he looked okay...but who gives about his looks. his moveset is pretty uber. the guy is nearly broken. long ranged attacks, cool kicks, a surprise DM and new animations.
the only stupid thing about him is that he goes flying after doing a haohshikoken.....must be them knees! 😆

Emp has a crush on Ellen

nah mane, emp has always loved king. that's why he even went so far as to google king's lookalikes 😆

Bison a punching bag to heroes, since when?

Last I checked he was kicking everyones ass under the sun and without much problems at that. The only person who managed to defeat him was rose and he came back from the dead just to kill the her. Even Gouki considered him a worthy warrior. Bison never been embarrassed as bad as Geese. I could at least say he ran from numbers where as Geese ran from rip-off.

And as much as I like Geese, I don't think he can defeat rugal.

Ditto

Originally posted by Sado22
beat Jeff Bogard. stop right there, foo. the STRONGEST fighter of South Town.
Maybe ST ain't that tough of a town then. Jeff was never a playable character & he should have been in the AOF tourneys if he was all that tuff. All I've ever seen him do was get beat to def very easily son. He fits quite nicely into the nobody category. So the last time Geese had a W was before Terry's voice cracked. Noticing that FF is full of hyperbole too. "strong as a demon" & "destroy the world"
Originally posted by Sado22
-Ryo was a steady, PERFECT win till he went all "Dumbassagat" on Ryo.
You've already said that what Geese did was dumber so cut that out. @least Sagat's folly was him being a fvcking sportsman. Maybe that's why he's a national hero. Ever think of that? Geese was just being an idiot & an @sshole. Not the same thing as what Sagat did. Stop pretending it is mane.
Originally posted by Sado22
and he wasn't even affected by it. hardly a "loss", foo!
Yeah it is. He was affected enough to the point where he wanted to get the fvck outta dodge. He ran from the fight like a punk bit*h. If Mayweather had ran from the ring like a bi*ch, Hatton'd be champ now.
Originally posted by Sado22
-Terry was a loss.
-and FFRB was the most vague pis-ridden event ever chornicled. makes no sense since Klantis pulls stuff out of his keister all the time (and even sucked on kyo in a FF story)
How? & that story stix 'til I hear something else. FF was a Terry wankfest & that story fits right in w/the rest of FF's horrible Terrynutridin' story.
Originally posted by Sado22
Sagat, Mr. Karate, Rugal
You purposely not read the whole question? It was "who's fought AND lost to the hero more times than Geese?" Sagat was boss in one game. & I don't think Mr. Karate nor Rugal were boss for more than 2. & Rugal blew the fvck up last time. That's not as bad as using magic steriods & still getting blasted off a roof by one damn guy that wasn't even fresh.
Originally posted by Sado22
his name is bison
See: previous question foo. Bison always ends up looking way tougher than that dead old punching bag that was Geese. Bison's beaten the hero. Hell, Bison comes back from the fvcking dead to get even w/folks. Geese hasn't & why the hell should he when we all know he can't do anything right. He'd just come back & get beatdown all over again. 😂
Originally posted by Sado22
he looked okay...but who gives about his looks. his moveset is pretty uber. the guy is nearly broken. long ranged attacks, cool kicks, a surprise DM and new animations.
the only stupid thing about him is that he goes flying after doing a haohshikoken.....must be them knees! 😆

nah mane, emp has always loved king. that's why he even went so far as to google king's lookalikes 😆

😂 She really shoulda been in the game & in dumbass SVC!

Bison a punching bag to heroes, since when?

since running away from shoryuken
since running away from the dolls
since running away from chunli, guile and chunli
since being "nearly killed" by Rose who is not even toptier
since being pwned by whoever fought in SF2

heck all he's ever done is get pwned....and run away. pathetic.

Last I checked he was kicking everyones ass under the sun and without much problems at that.

sure...and i guess he just ran away cuz he needed to take a p!ss.

The only person who managed to defeat him was rose

who is not even toptier or godtier. and yet we talk about "pis" as if it only existed in SNK.

and he came back from the dead just to kill the her.

no he didn't. he was intangible then and he just took over.

Even Gouki considered him a worthy warrior.

he called him weak and pathetic in his SFA3 ending. he considered bison weak cuz he relied 'on his shadow'.

Bison never been embarrassed as bad as Geese.

dude, have you been paying attention to the asskicking i just mentioned above.

I could at least say he ran from numbers where as Geese ran from rip-off.

say what you will but both you and i know that ryo is far from lowtier character in the SNK world going so far as to pwn Terry Bogard in the intro of KoFMI2. AND while bison had the whole world as his source of power and STILL RAN AWAY, Geese was hardly affected by ryo's ultimate move.............and barely bothered to be even remotely concerned with the art of fighting gang.

And as much as I like Geese, I don't think he can defeat rugal.

agreed.

Maybe ST ain't that tough of a town then.

stop right there, loser. you said "anyone tough" and i pointed out the strongest person in South town at the time. shut it.

You've already said that what Geese did was dumber so cut that out. @least Sagat's folly was him being a fvcking sportsman. Maybe that's why he's a national hero. Ever think of that? Geese was just being an idiot & an @sshole. Not the same thing as what Sagat did. Stop pretending it is mane.

i did?

Yeah it is. He was affected enough to the point where he wanted to get the fvck outta dodge. He ran from the fight like a punk bit*h. If Mayweather had ran from the ring like a bi*ch, Hatton'd be champ now.

dude...play AoF2, watch the ending or just say you're too lazy and want me to send you the link.

You purposely not read the whole question? It was "who's fought AND lost to the hero more times than Geese?" Sagat was boss in one game. & I don't think Mr. Karate nor Rugal were boss for more than 2. & Rugal blew the fvck up last time. That's not as bad as using magic steriods & still getting blasted off a roof by one damn guy that wasn't even fresh.

so who else is a reoccuring boss?
lemme see:
-rugal, lost to the same guy twice and keeps coming back in dreammatches to get raped again
-bison did the same (since he fought guile/chunli/ken/ryu) in SFA3 aswell
-kazuya lost to hachi twice
-ogre lost to jin twice

how many times has geese lost to terry? twice.

Bison always ends up looking way tougher than that dead old punching bag that was Geese. Bison's beaten the hero. Hell, Bison comes back from the fvcking dead to get even w/folks. Geese hasn't & why the hell should he when we all know he can't do anything right. He'd just come back & get beatdown all over again.

please explain to me how a man who has the whole world as his power can go on losing to so many people. a limitless supply and he gets tired, beaten, or just plane chickens out and runs? and how is that supposed to make him look tough?

She really shoulda been in the game & in dumbass SVC

definitely! instead of uglybitch kasumi

~Sado

Both characters in this thread lack feats...but Sagat has better ones than Geese. At least there were reasons for why Sagat lost some of his fights...Geese just gets his ass beat for no logical reason.

Why Geese is cosidered a match for Bison is beyond me...Vega and Balrog can double team this guy and win.

Alpha 3 was the exception to the rule, they did Bison dirty in that game. Can't say the same for Geese who's entire career revolves around running away from people.

The Tiers in Alpha aren't accounted for in the plot guide, it only counts current fighters and their last known power levels. We don't know how strong Bison was in Alpha 2, but we know he's stronger in Alpha 3. Since Roses last known power reading was in Alpha 3 we know that she was awfully close to the top and she didn't get a boost. So, she's awfully close and still has a chance.

Never said KOF only had PIS, but they don't really care about establishing a power heirarchy. Because as long as your the hero, you win. Doesn't matter of Geese wasn't effected by rip-off's ultimate move, because the most it's ever done was kill some clothes.

Wasn't talking about a weaker Bison in SFII, Gouki made that comment in Alpha.

Both characters in this thread lack feats...but Sagat has better ones than Geese. At least there were reasons for why Sagat lost some of his fights...Geese just gets his ass beat for no logical reason.

sagat has no feats. they don't "lack" feats.....they don't have any. they just beat up no-names for their entire career, happened to be named the greatest fighters in their games and were beaten down by boys barely 20 years of age. and sagat hasn't done anything since SF1 worth mentioning. neither has geese.
so it is a perfectly good match.

Alpha 3 was the exception to the rule, they did Bison dirty in that game. Can't say the same for Geese who's entire career revolves around running away from people.

well that's too bad, i know, but it doesn't change the facts.
Geese for one didn't "run away". he couldn't be bothered as was obvious.

The Tiers in Alpha aren't accounted for in the plot guide, it only counts current fighters and their last known power levels. We don't know how strong Bison was in Alpha 2, but we know he's stronger in Alpha 3. Since Roses last known power reading was in Alpha 3 we know that she was awfully close to the top and she didn't get a boost. So, she's awfully close and still has a chance.

last i checked, rose was 4th tier in SFworld. even if you're right, that's still a toptier losing to 1st tier. not to mention that tiamat didn't really draw any difference between SFA2 and SFA3 bison.

Never said KOF only had PIS, but they don't really care about establishing a power heirarchy. Because as long as your the hero, you win. Doesn't matter of Geese wasn't effected by rip-off's ultimate move, because the most it's ever done was kill some clothes

i already addressed that point. Ryo hadn't mastered the haohshikoken till that point. he only mastered it against Takuma in their fight. when he did it to King, he happened to be doing it for the first time.
he honed it in the subsequent fight with takuma (which, btw, happened to be takuma's winquote against ryo too: "you can only beat me if you master the haoh ken"😉

and let me say this as clearly as i can:
Ryo was about to kill takuma with it. it is a DEATH BLOW. instant kill. not shitshoryuken that can't even beat down a lardass regular thug from Final fight. 😉

Wasn't talking about a weaker Bison in SFII, Gouki made that comment in Alpha

and so am i.
later.

~Sado

1. Geese got beat down by a barely 20 year old(Terry). Sagat beat the 20 year old down & then got cheap shotted. YOU said it. But now it's conveniently a beatdown? 2. The "death blow" would have only rendered Takuma naked. It only kills clothes when ripoff does it. We've never seen it do anything other than kill clothes. It's a clothes killer 😂

Originally posted by Sado22
since running away from shoryuken
since running away from the dolls
since running away from chunli, guile and chunli
Getting jumped>>>>>>>Getting 2 beatdowns from the same guy. Running from a gang >>>>>>>>>>>>>> running from 1 ripoff
Originally posted by Sado22
since being "nearly killed" by Rose who is not even toptier
since being pwned by whoever fought in SF2
don't know who he fought, yet you know they pwned him. Do better Sado. & Rose is quite powerful storywise.
Originally posted by Sado22
heck all he's ever done is get pwned....and run away. pathetic.
Must be talking about Geese. Didn't Bison whoop Ryu in a fair one?
Originally posted by Sado22
and yet we talk about "pis" as if it only existed in SNK.
You are the Prince of all lies!!!! Emp's been talking about the PIS involved w/the Alpha for years & I've even commented on it now & then. Pay attention mane!!
Originally posted by Sado22
say what you will but both you and i know that ryo is far from lowtier character in the SNK world going so far as to pwn Terry Bogard in the intro of KoFMI2.
Fight wasn't over & I betcha a million dollars Terry outlasted him. The guy gets fustigated by lil' girls dressed like cats who aren't even trying hard.
Originally posted by Sado22
AND while bison had the whole world as his source of power and STILL RAN AWAY, Geese was hardly affected by ryo's ultimate move.............and barely bothered to be even remotely concerned with the art of fighting gang.
'cuz they ain't shit. They got the strongest style & the team Never gets to the finals. Why run from a battle if you're barely affected? Now Geese looks like even more of a bit*h. Thanx a lot Sado 🙁

Originally posted by Sado22
stop right there, loser. you said "anyone tough" and i pointed out the strongest person in South town at the time. shut it.
All I've ever seen him do is get beat to death w/out putting up much of a fight(did he even hit Geese?.) South Town is full of no name Terry victims. I've heard no mention of Jeff beating Takuma or anybody else. He's just some guy who got beat on. Try again loser 😄
Originally posted by Sado22
i did?
Yeah. Give yourself a lil' credit. Or are you trying to say that being a sportsman is anywhere near as dumb as saying "hit me muthafvcka" & sticking your chin out? Come on now.
Originally posted by Sado22
dude...play AoF2, watch the ending or just say you're too lazy and want me to send you the link.
Don't be asinine Sado. 😄 1. You know I'm lazy & want a link(here). 2. You know I don't own ripoff's games nor do I plan on ever owning any much less playing through a ripoff game long enough to see the ending.
Originally posted by Sado22
so who else is a reoccuring boss?
lemme see:
-rugal, lost to the same guy twice and keeps coming back in dreammatches to get raped again
Self destructed the 2nd time right? Dreammatches canon? Didn't think so. Try again.
Originally posted by Sado22
-bison did the same (since he fought guile/chunli/ken/ryu) in SFA3 as well
Got jumped. Not the same as the hero just terrying you a new a$$hole by his gotdamn self. Geese either runs like a bit*h(from one guy), gets beat so badly people think he's dead(from one guy), or gets blasted off a tower & then falls to his death(from one guy) 'cuz he could no longer cope w/the constant embarrassment. What a record!!
Originally posted by Sado22
-kazuya lost to hachi twice
Not the hero.
Originally posted by Sado22
-ogre lost to jin twice
Paul once. Then Jin right
Originally posted by Sado22
how many times has geese lost to terry? twice.
& Ryo once. 3 losses as a boss of the games & no W's against the hero. He's resume' padding for a gloryhog & a dimestore Ryu.
Originally posted by Sado22
please explain to me how a man who has the whole world as his power can go on losing to so many people. a limitless supply and he gets tired, beaten, or just plane chickens out and runs? and how is that supposed to make him look tough?
PIS & getting jumped
Originally posted by Sado22
definitely! instead of uglybitch kasumi

~Sado

Don't think she's ugly.

AAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!
my whole reply was just cancelled?! 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by Classic NES
Alpha 3 was the exception to the rule, they did Bison dirty in that game. Can't say the same for Geese who's entire career revolves around running away from people.
I don't think Bison was done totally dirty. I just recently beat the game wit ever one in SFA 3 and alot of those endins make Ryu seem like "The Chosen One" type of characters. I Sagat's endin Bison says "Ryu is the ultimate form of Psycho Power". Ryu might look regular but he's no chump. Dude's got the potential to be the strongest SF or so it is hinted towards.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Never said KOF only had PIS, but they don't really care about establishing a power heirarchy. Because as long as your the hero, you win. Doesn't matter of Geese wasn't effected by rip-off's ultimate move, because the most it's ever done was kill some clothes.
😆

When did a KOF boss fight not involve jobbing, CIS or PIS? At one point wasn't there a team of bosses (I forget which bosses but I know it was durin NESTS) AND A LION and they still got there asses kicked?

Hey Sado.

Originally posted by Sado22

well that's too bad, i know, but it doesn't change the facts.
Geese for one didn't "run away". he couldn't be bothered as was obvious.

He couldn't be bothered even though he lost?

Originally posted by Sado22

last i checked, rose was 4th tier in SFworld. even if you're right, that's still a toptier losing to 1st tier. not to mention that tiamat didn't really draw any difference between SFA2 and SFA3 bison .

Bison was beefed up with psycho energy from around the world during Alpha 3. To the point where he was about to burst if he didn't get a new body, Alpha 2 Bison was nowhere near that state since he didn't have the drive.

Tiamat didn't draw any difference, because it was obvious.

Originally posted by Sado22

i already addressed that point. Ryo hadn't mastered the haohshikoken till that point. he only mastered it against Takuma in their fight. when he did it to King, he happened to be doing it for the first time.
he honed it in the subsequent fight with takuma (which, btw, happened to be takuma's winquote against ryo too: "you can only beat me if you master the haoh ken"😉

and let me say this as clearly as i can:
Ryo was about to kill takuma with it. it is a DEATH BLOW. instant kill. not shitshoryuken that can't even beat down a lardass regular thug from Final fight. 😉

How many times I gotta tell you that's unconfirmed, you doing this on purpose now? 😬

Death Blow, who did he kill with it?

I mean your ragging on Ryu for not K.O.ing Hugo, but Ryo cannot even K.O. a chick with one of his strongest moves?

Originally posted by Sado22

and so am i.
later.

~Sado

Yet, you mentioned an event from SFII?
😕

He couldn't be bothered even though he lost?

it makes sense in a SNK kinda way🙁
it was never about the art of fighting crew, that's why geese is just a secret boss in AoF2. kyokugen guys were never really the point. he asked takuma to kill jeff, and takuma refused. Mr. Big then went ahead and got her kidnapped. Geese didn't even know nor care about all that happened.

Bison was beefed up with psycho energy from around the world during Alpha 3. To the point where he was about to burst if he didn't get a new body, Alpha 2 Bison was nowhere near that state since he didn't have the drive. Tiamat didn't draw any difference, because it was obvious

okay. i was under the impression that he had the same power since SFA2. my bad.

How many times I gotta tell you that's unconfirmed, you doing this on purpose now?

sorry mang...been debating with brain too much for the past few weeks. i've picked up the "rage syndrome" too.

Death Blow, who did he kill with it? I mean your ragging on Ryu for not K.O.ing Hugo, but Ryo cannot even K.O. a chick with one of his strongest moves?

he was about to kill takuma with it. he didn't kill him cuz he didn't do it. he only did it to king at a time when he hadn't mastered it. you pickin up the "rage syndrome" too, mang.

Yet, you mentioned an event from SFII?

i was talking about akuma's SFA3 ending where he calls bison weak. which one are you talking about? i didn't know he said anything to bison in SF2. i thought he just showed up, did SGS and went away.

I don't think Bison was done totally dirty. I just recently beat the game wit ever one in SFA 3 and alot of those endins make Ryu seem like "The Chosen One" type of characters. I Sagat's endin Bison says "Ryu is the ultimate form of Psycho Power". Ryu might look regular but he's no chump. Dude's got the potential to be the strongest SF or so it is hinted towards.

....err no offense, but what you trying to say? 😕

When did a KOF boss fight not involve jobbing, CIS or PIS? At one point wasn't there a team of bosses (I forget which bosses but I know it was durin NESTS) AND A LION and they still got there asses kicked?

that was KoF2001, subboss fight.
It was Original Zero, Ron, Krizalid clone and a lion.

it sounds ridiculous the way you put it but when we actually think about the fact that they lion, ron and the clone were just strikers. not to mention the hero team included:
-Lin, who has the same fighting style as Ron
-a cyborg with vapor canons and other weaponry, Maxima
-a BDSM ho, Whip who Krizalid thought was his sister his whole life
-and K Dash the guy who fougth Zero the previous year and knows all his moves
😬

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
....err no offense, but what you trying to say? 😕
This...
Originally posted by My self
Dude's got the potential to be the strongest SF or so it is hinted towards.

Originally posted by Sado22
that was KoF2001, subboss fight.
It was Original Zero, Ron, Krizalid clone and a lion.

it sounds ridiculous the way you put it but when we actually think about the fact that they lion, ron and the clone were just strikers. not to mention the hero team included:
-Lin, who has the same fighting style as Ron
-a cyborg with vapor canons and other weaponry, Maxima
-a BDSM ho, Whip who Krizalid thought was his sister his whole life
-and K Dash the guy who fougth Zero the previous year and knows all his moves
😬

~Sado

None of those guys have feats worthy or previous showins that would make one believe that they have what it takes to beat the likes of Original Zero, Ron (well maybe Ron, he doesn't seem boss like), Krizalid clone and a lion. Yet they lose any way, S'up wit that?

None of those guys have feats worthy or previous showins that would make one believe that they have what it takes to beat the likes of Original Zero, Ron (well maybe Ron, he doesn't seem boss like), Krizalid clone and a lion. Yet they lose any way, S'up wit that?

have you been paying attention even? 😬

K Dash= took down Zero the freakin year before so obviously he knows how to deal with the new Zero since his movelist is the same. he just happens to be stronger.
Maxima= a cyborg. what part of vapor canon didn't you get?
Whip= okay so she sucks, i'll give you that. the only thing she's good for is being a dominatrix for that bondage freak. Krizalid.........leather+belts=wrong. also it is a krizalid clone, not krizalid which is why he's just stuck being a striker for him.
Lin= has the same moves as Ron, and ron is no boss character.

and finally, they were just strikers. it wasn't a 4-on-4 fight.
the lion is also not a boss or anything of the like (and is just a striker).

~Sado

That cancel shit used to happen to me all the time. When you are done typing, copy your post 1st. Paste it to make sure the copy was done right & then click submit. If the system fvcks up, you'll still have your stuff copied. Paste it & then try again 'til it goes thru. 😄 I'm not 100% on the definition of "rage syndrome". What is it Sado? Also what evidence is there that he'd ever mastered the "death blow"? Had he "K'd a B" b4 he fought Takuma?

Originally posted by Sado22
have you been paying attention even? 😬

K Dash= took down Zero the freakin year before so obviously he knows how to deal with the new Zero since his movelist is the same. he just happens to be stronger.
Maxima= a cyborg. what part of vapor [b]canon
didn't you get?
Whip= okay so she sucks, i'll give you that. the only thing she's good for is being a dominatrix for that bondage freak. Krizalid.........leather+belts=wrong. also it is a krizalid clone, not krizalid which is why he's just stuck being a striker for him.
Lin= has the same moves as Ron, and ron is no boss character.

and finally, they were just strikers. it wasn't a 4-on-4 fight.
the lion is also not a boss or anything of the like (and is just a striker).

~Sado [/B]

K' Dash took down a poisoned Zero after several people fought him. Original Zero> Clone Zero

Whip=Useless

Clone or no clone, he still has the kusanagi flame and is a boss in a team.

Don't tell you believe that Vapor Cannon is what it's litterally capabale of?

Lins not Ron though 😬

There strikers in Game, Sado. Bottom line is that a team of bosses lost.