Originally posted by LordKaos
In most cases when people say they are one with the universe it takes cosmic awareness for them to draw that conclusion.
This is one of those cases when it means he WAS the Universe.
Originally posted by LordKaos
So where was eternity when all this happened,
Warped.
Originally posted by LordKaos
and now that Jaspers is not the universe anymore, who is?
Eternity.
Originally posted by LordKaos
since he must have destroyed the first Eternity to usurp his position.
No you do not need to destroy Eternity in order to usurp his Position.
Just look at Thanos with the IG.
Originally posted by LordKaos
Or did he just say "here you go eternity, I'm finished being you, you can come back now"?
The Universe always heals itself, once the problem is gone.
"Incredible, REALITY literally REGENERATING ITSELF, Pure Creation"
"the Journey through the Scar is at an end, let's see what lies Beyond Eternity"
"the Cosmos is Healing itself before our very eyes"
Heck even in this incident (concerning Jaspers 616) it's clearly mentioned:
"Your presence is an anomaly,
that has prevented this Continuum (616 Universe) from Healing"
Originally posted by LordKaos
And doesn't eternity usually go and tattle to LT when someone plays with his toys, why didn't he show up,
Like Bentley said,
survival of the fittest.
Originally posted by LordKaos
oh wait he was warped too right?
lmfao
Cut the sarcasm and debate.
Originally posted by LordKaos
I get that about LT, but eternity on the other has been known to call on him when something as big as being replaced threatens his position whether it warrants LTs attention or not, like with the IG.
Merlyn was handling it,
he's the Omniversal Guardian.
Originally posted by LordKaos
If he is as powerful as he and everybody else says then his death shouldn't have changed anything, it should be one of those it can't be undone unless something with equal or greater power reverses it deals,
Jaspers never killed Eternity,
Jaspers simply Recreated the Universe and replaced the Sentience for a while.
Originally posted by Mr Master
😆Jim Japsers Remade the 616 Universe, end of story.
"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"
"I made the Stars"Here's the Proof
In Captain Britain's series that came AFTER Jaspers was killed by the Fury,
it's clarified for those that tried to demean Jaspers' Feat.
"Although Captain UK and I defeated the Fury & contained the Jaspers' Warp,
the Continuum was sufficiently damaged"
Another instance,
BIO:
"Roma informed Linda her anomalous presence on 616,
was preventing the Damaged Reality (Universe) from fully Healing"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Captain UK Bio)On Panel verification
"Your presence is an anomaly,
that has prevented this Continuum (616 Universe) from Healing"
How the heck is Warping one country fkn up a Universe? dontgetit
as always masters to the point with the scans and game over 👆
Originally posted by Mr Master
😆[B]Jim Japsers Remade the 616 Universe
, end of story."I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"
"I made the Stars" [/B]
Nope. Jaspers as stated in the handbook and on the marvunapp site warped the UK and presumably the world.
Jaspers saying he made everything is an ambiguous line and he could very well have meant within his reality warp. Either way Jaspers is only ever shown on panel warping the UK so his comments are unverified on panel anyway. On top of that I am supported officially. Officially your opinion is DISPUTED.
Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Here's the ProofIn Captain Britain's series that came AFTER Jaspers was killed by the Fury,
it's clarified for those that tried to demean Jaspers' Feat.
"Although Captain UK and I defeated the Fury & contained the Jaspers' Warp,
the Continuum was sufficiently damaged"
Another instance,
BIO:
"Roma informed Linda her anomalous presence on 616,
was preventing the Damaged Reality (Universe) from fully Healing"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Captain UK Bio)On Panel verification
"Your presence is an anomaly,
that has prevented this Continuum (616 Universe) from Healing"
How the heck is Warping one country fkn up a Universe? dontgetit [/B]
Linda coming from Universe 238 is an anomaly in reality 616 and is therefore preventing the 616 universe from healing. An example of how even the smallest seemingly insignificant parts of the puzzle can affect the whole. Remove the Keystone from a bridge and the whole structure comes toppling down. The Jaspers global warp is another example.
On panel Jaspers is only ever shown warping the UK, supporting characters only refer to the fact that he has damaged the UK, official sources say he only damaged the UK, with the world being the biggest scale they’re willing to presume. You questioning how such a small scale warp can have such a significant affect doesn’t change the fact that on panel his warp is limited to the Earth and the fact that there’s no statement in any comic which specifically defines the scale of the warp as anything but global. This is all a matter of comic book science, it doesn’t have to make sense to you by your real world standards. Either way your opinion isn’t conclusively verified on panel whereas mine has support on panel, plus its verified by official sources.
Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]I did find more evidence to further prove, Jaspers was the 616 Universe.http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/madjimj2.htm
GO down to 'The Mighty World of Marvel #9'
(on the right hand side of the poker dot Jaspers with a Cane)
"Captain Britain entered Jaspers' Office to find Jaspers,
a Giant at ONE with the Universe"
This, coupled with the rest of my evidence,
seals the coffin. 🙂
Remember, this site is officially approved by Marvel.
Its rather amusing how you put marvunapp on a pedestal and highlight the fact that its held in high regard by the official source that is Marvunapp. Why? Because the scene where Jaspers is in a star-scape the site says is just Jaspers at one with the universe. That does not equate to saying Jaspers recreated the entire universe and yet despite the site saying that you are claiming that scene says and means something else. Storm is at one with the Earth, does that mean that her powers can recreate the entire globe? SS is at one with the universe, does that mean he has universal power or that he could recreate or destroy the universe with his power? The line isn’t ambiguous. It says nothing about remaking or recreating. It merely says at one, which means he was attuned to or connected with, that’s all. You really need to comprehend just what conclusive evidence is. Please don’t impose more of your supposition on us. Your opinion is not fact, your interpretation not conclusively confirmed by any official source, accept that.
On top of that what I find rather suspicious is the fact that despite hyping up the site and claiming it to be an authority on comic matters, you’re ignoring where it says “Jaspers let his reality warp spread across the country, and presumably the world”
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/madjimj2.htm
How selective Mr M. The site’s good enough to use to shut down any and everyone else’s arguments but when it disputes your own its ignored?😖hifty:
What double standards!! 😱
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its rather amusing how you put marvunapp on a pedestal and highlight the fact that its held in high regard by the official source that is Marvunapp. Why? Because the scene where Jaspers is in a star-scape the site says is just Jaspers at one with the universe. That does not equate to saying Jaspers recreated the entire universe and yet despite the site saying that you are claiming that scene says and means something else. Storm is at one with the Earth, does that mean that her powers can recreate the entire globe? SS is at one with the universe, does that mean he has universal power or that he could recreate or destroy the universe with his power? The line isn’t ambiguous. It says nothing about remaking or recreating. It merely says at one, which means he was attuned to or connected with, that’s all. You really need to comprehend just what conclusive evidence is. Please don’t impose more of your supposition on us. Your opinion is not fact, your interpretation not conclusively confirmed by any official source, accept that.On top of that what I find rather suspicious is the fact that despite hyping up the site and claiming it to be an authority on comic matters, you’re ignoring where it says “Jaspers let his reality warp spread across the country, and presumably the world”
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/madjimj2.htm
How selective Mr M. The site’s good enough to use to shut down any and everyone else’s arguments but when it disputes your own its ignored?😖hifty:
What double standards!! 😱
GS, does First Fallen equal Phoenix Force
