The Living Tribunal vs. the Source

Originally posted by Mr Master
That was in 1982 in a "What if."

Originally posted by Mr Master
And the LT (with a gesture) was still able to rip that entire Universe from the Multiverse,
then the LT sealed that Universe in an impenetrable barrier.

On top of that,
it was Death that somehow aided Korvac in defying the Super Nova,
Korvac didn't defy the LT's power directly at all,
in fact,
the LT and Korvac never even saw each other.

All I'm saying is, LT's a lot more impressive nowadays. 🙂

Many here put the source above Michael and Lucifer. If that's true, then maybe the source can win. But my hunch tells me the LT.

Is the source above Mike and Lucy?

Originally posted by Galan007

The year said event occured shouldn't matter if LT's power has remained stagnant.

Originally posted by Galan007

LT still referred to making a sun go nova, as his "ultimate punishment",
back then - and his cosmic decree was still defied when the earth remained unharmed after his "ultimate punishment" was unleashed, back then.

(imo, LT should've never been there)

The Earth remained unharmed
because Death aided Korvac somehow,
so the Sun going Nova was in-effective.

Meh, the whole crap was PIS!

I mean the LT can casually rip entire Universes from the Multiverse,
but instead, he decides to attack Korvac indirectly
and with a Sun going Nova to add to the humor? 😆

Come on brother G, laugh with me.

Originally posted by Galan007

All I'm saying is, LT's a lot more impressive nowadays.

In fact,
the LT's bio is virtually identical from his first in 1983 to his last 2006:

LT's bio 1983 (powers)

LT's bio 2006 (powers)

LT wins, the source had such a lame showing in DOTNG.

Originally posted by King Kandy
LT wins, the source had such a lame showing in DOTNG.

Originally posted by Air Legend
LT in a ridiculous stomp.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Well now, the source powers EVERYTHING. And that was at half strength. The LT could not beat protege. The source would simply pull the plug on Protege's power where he a DC character. Rediculous stomp would be over estimating the LT IMO.

Originally posted by King Kandy
LT wins, the source had such a lame showing in DOTNG.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
The source, LT had such a lame showing against protege.

Mr. Master, you keep bringing up the fact that it was a What-If, however, aren't you the one that has pointed out time and time again that there is only one Living Tribunal across all possible Marvel Universes?

Originally posted by Soljer

Mr. Master, you keep bringing up the fact that it was a What-If,
however,
aren't you the one that has pointed out time and time again
that there is only one Living Tribunal across all possible Marvel Universes?

That doesn't excuse the PIS involved though.

Again:

Originally posted by Mr Master

I mean the LT can casually rip entire Universes from the Multiverse,

but instead,

he decides to attack Korvac indirectly

and with a Sun going Nova to add to the humor? 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed.

The Protege copied the Lt's powers. I dont think the Protege could have defeat the Lt. I still think a kid wit Lt's powers would lose wielding it against the Lt but we will never know. The Source couldnt pull the plug on Proteges power. He couldnt do that to Darkseid. I dont know where you are getting this from?

Agreed. My opinion of the Source went way downhill after I read this comic.

No he didnt. He stood there as Scathan pwned him. Protege was defeated rather easily. Protege also failed to do anything to the Lt.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

He got his powers jacked

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

he couldnt do anything he had outside help...

Yes, he had help (Scathan)
but you're incorrect when you say "he couldn't do anything."

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

lt isnt stomping the guy who is responsible for just about everything in dc.

All of them are beneath the LT.

The source is responsible for every power in dc even outside the dc multiverse and that was when he was a greatly weakened state,im not saying lt doesnt win im saying hes not stomping and the point of bringing up protege is everyone keeps bringing up darkseid using the sources power and the new gods against the source...and then he called in orion to deal with darkseid its preety much the exact same situation that it was with protege.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

The source is responsible for every power in dc even outside the dc multiverse and that was when he was a greatly weakened state

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

im not saying lt doesnt win im saying hes not stomping and the point of bringing up protege is everyone keeps bringing up darkseid using the sources power and the new gods against the source...and then he called in orion to deal with darkseid its preety much the exact same situation that it was with protege.

I'm not sayin LT wins either.

I rarely have an opinion on cross-company battles.

My main objective on kmc, is to clear up info concerning Marvel cosmology,
or,
to fill in the onlookers with updates, to intricacies that might've been missed by me or another.

Basically I give perspective for the Marvel side,
then I let the crowd choose.

Yea,Honestly Id say lt wins he is the omniversal judge,but damn hardly anyone gives the source any credit nor do they realize how strong darkseid was as he was in death of the new gods.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.

That doesn't excuse the PIS involved though.

Again:

PIS! ... not surprisingly, "What ifs" are famous for this.

My mistake. I thought you were trying to write it off as non-canon rather than as PIS.

In that case, continue. I'm not much of one for omnipotent vs. omnipotent fights. 🙂.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Many here put the source above Michael and Lucifer. If that's true, then maybe the source can win. But my hunch tells me the LT.

Is the source above Mike and Lucy?

I wanna say yes but I'm not sure with the current Source.

As for the fight, LT would win. Darkseid was able to undermine the Source during their encounter. The Source predicted that Darkseid would pull something and had Orion as a back up plan. However, the Source didn't know what Darkseid's plan was exactly until Darkseid drank the Soul Fire Project and detailed his plan after capturing the Source. The LT, however, knew the outcome of Warlock's trial, which could be useful when be are infinite in powers.

Other reasons include:

1. Source is infallible being (not saying LT isn't either but Source is exactly LT or Presence at this point)
2. 3 Old Head Gods separated the Source originally
3. I have my doubts that the quantified powers of the New Gods is greater than LT or Lucifer beings.

The source isn't the Presence. I don't know it's relation to the presence. But it can't be the presence itself. I think Mike and Lucy are above the source.

Somehow the Source is over LT but then loses to Darkseid who had trouble with Superman and his pal Jimmy.

The DC uber cosmics tend to have bad showings. I wonder how they could let that happen?

LT FTW

Originally posted by King Kandy
Somehow the Source is over LT but then loses to Darkseid who had trouble with Superman and his pal Jimmy.