Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Either could do it alone, quite easily.
Not happening.
However, Maul, despite being very powerful, is a weak link in force powers (in this fight), and either opponent could defeat him with force powers while the other held off Dooku. Then Dooku loses in a two on one match.
However, Maul and Dooku most definitely stand a chance in a saber confrontation.
Not really. Even in a lightsaber battle, I'd definitely bet on Bane alone beating both of them together, with quite a lot of ease as well. Now I think I made a pretty good case for even PoD Bane being above Anakin in sabers by quite a high margin (and Anakin himself is quite firmly above either Maul or Dooku), so when you factor in the major power surge he gains in BotS, and the benefits gained from the orbalisk armour, I'd go as far as even saying that Bane would own them in a saber confrontation, he's just that much better than either of them.
Maul is always underrated. He was Sidious' vision of the perfect Martial weapon come alive.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Anoon Bondara was "one of the best fighters in the order. His skill with a lightsaber was second to none."
Darsha Assant "even as an infant she had shown strong Force tendencies," and the day she went to become a Jedi Knight, she "hoped that one day she might be able to exhibit a tenth of Anoon Bondara's adeptness."
When Maul fought Anoon, Maul knew "within the first few moments of the engagement, Darth Maul knew that he himself was the superior fighter."
For Darsha, "It was hard for her to conceive of a situation in which her mentor could be bested in combat, but if anyone was capable of it, she had the feeling the Sith was that one."
Maul made quick work of Anoon, driving him back and then, Anoon, realizing after seconds of confrontation, that he didn't have nearly enough skills to take on Maul, stabbed a speeder bike's engine in attempt to kill both of them. However, in the "microsecond" that Maul had to jump off the platform that the two had been battling on to dodge the explosion, Maul was out of harms way.I f Maul is put on the defensive, he has the speed to dodge pretty much everything that's thrown at him, or he can spin his twin blades "so fast they seemed to merge into a crimson shield."
Also, read through this: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=001
If the fact that it's 90 pages of flipping through turns you off, remember that it's a comic, and, it's about Maul, so naturally, the dialogue is minimal, and, it really doesn't take long.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Maul just stomped on the Jedi's battle master, Anoon Bondara, in seconds, who's skills were "second to none." Maul left piles upon piles of bodies in his wake when he attacked the Black Sun. He killed 7 elite Vigos in what? One second? Two maybe? He dominated the fight with Qui Gon and Obi Wan, running circles around them, and leading them to the generator pit place. He killed a focused Qui Gon in 30 seconds, when Maul had a bad ankle, I think. Maul's everyday exercises would kill an average Jedi. Maul is a Teras Kasi Master. Maul "mastered the lightsaber." Maul had "far superior darkside knowledge" than a Nightsister. Maul was a warrior in his prime.
Ands who says the Orbalisks don't slow Bane down in combat? They do have some weight, and in the DSSB, it says that they do (although, it is represented in stat form).
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
They do add on some weight, sure, but that doesn't matter, given the constant pumping in of adrenaline and darkside energies, and the strengthening of his muscles. The pros far outweight the cons.
Agreed, the protection and darkside energies do outweigh the decrease in maneuverability and speed. As long as you would recognize the cons to having them.
The same can be said for Vader's armor!
But I'm actually talking entirely in respect to speed. The strengthening of his muscles, coupled along with the constant input of adrenaline and darkside energies would all increase his speed by an exponential degree. He's MUCH faster with the orbalisks than he is without them, and in terms of maneuverability, it's not like the orbalisks are bulky or anything, they wouldn't make too much of a difference.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Where's that said? Anyways, it still doesn't compare to the adrenaline and strengthening of muscles that Bane also received on top of the darkside energies, as well as his superior force strength and mastery, and capabilities to use the force to amp up his speed.
DSSB.
Prove it.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
DSSB.
Well I just read under the 'Darth Vader's Armour' entree, and that's not what it actually says.
Darth Vader wears a unique set of dark armor. It is the equivalent of padded battle armor, imbued with dark side power through sith alchemical techniques
All that is, is that Vader's armour was constructed using sith alchemy, and it's the amour which is made stronger. It's completely different from Vader himself being pumped up with darkside energies.
Prove it.
Prove it? Well seeing as both are receiving the darkside energies (Vader's not as I've shown above, but I'll work under the assumption that he was just to argue this point), and Bane's receiving even more powerups beside that, it's pretty obvious, there's not really anything to prove.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
ROFL@Bane tooling Dooku. Even with the Orbalisks Dooku is superior to Bane. However, Kun is superior to Maul and in a force fight those two would win.