Jesus Was a Great Man

Started by Shakyamunison5 pages
Originally posted by Nellinator
Because that would not have been that politically prudent. There likely would have been a revolt in Jerusalem which would have lead to Pilate's removal from office anyways. On top of that, Jesus likely wouldn't have healed Claudius under those circumstances. Furthermore, Jesus wasn't a slave, nor would Pilate have been allowed to take him as one from my understanding.

Still, the Romans where almost neurotic about record keeping. If a rich man had died and then been raised from the dead, this would have caused problems with the tax collection. Why didn't they record this anomaly?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Still, the Romans where almost neurotic about record keeping. If a rich man had died and then been raised from the dead, this would have caused problems with the tax collection. Why didn't they record this anomaly?

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Youre forgetting a major one: the Koran.

Jesus is mentioned by name 93 time in the Koran, which is more than he is in the entire Bible.

Thanks for correcting me....would you care to enlighten us as to what the Koran says about Jesus ?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Still, the Romans where almost neurotic about record keeping. If a rich man had died and then been raised from the dead, this would have caused problems with the tax collection. Why didn't they record this anomaly?
Who Lazarus? He was only dead for four days. There wouldn't be a problem.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And?

And the Bible isnt the document to go by. (my first sentance pointed that out, the other was just a fun-fact)

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Thanks for correcting me....would you care to enlighten us as to what the Koran says about Jesus ?

It speaks really highly of Jesus but rejects his divinity. It also talks about miracles performed by Jesus that werent in the Bible, such as breathing life into clay birds.

It pretty much agrees with the Bible, but with the huge exception of him being the son of God.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It speaks really highly of Jesus but rejects his divinity. It also talks about miracles performed by Jesus that werent in the Bible, such as breathing life into clay birds.

It pretty much agrees with the Bible, but with the huge exception of him being the son of God.

Then the Quran and myself have a similar stance on Christ.

I am totally open to the possibility that Jesus performed miracles, because I do not find that totally unbeleivable.

There are so many people in History to have been said to have great abilities, even today. There are people who have done extraordinary things, and experience unexplainable events beyond our understanding.

Besides...masses of people have attested to the claim of his miracle work. Why would they all Lie ?

I just don't think Jesus was the only person capable of extraordinary things...I think he is one of those special beings who had a rare access to nature that most of us lack.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Youre forgetting a major one: the Koran.

Jesus is mentioned by name 93 time in the Koran, which is more than he is in the entire Bible.

Sorry to say that but you are wrong.In gospel of Matthew alone (which is the first book in the New Testament in the Bible)the name of Jesus is written at least 123 times (what I counted),and that's not the whole Bible not even the whole New Testement. 🙂

Originally posted by Ditte3
Sorry to say that but you are wrong.In gospel of Matthew alone (which is the first book in the New Testament in the Bible)the name of Jesus is written at least 123 times (what I counted),and that's not the whole Bible not even the whole New Testement. 🙂

Now we are counting the number of times that the name Jesus is written in our little holy books. 🙄

In the Lotus Sutra, Jesus can be found 0 times. 😛

Originally posted by Ditte3
Sorry to say that but you are wrong.In gospel of Matthew alone (which is the first book in the New Testament in the Bible)the name of Jesus is written at least 123 times (what I counted),and that's not the whole Bible not even the whole New Testement. 🙂

And ?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
And ?

but, or, so.

Oh, I thought this was a conjunction post that you were starting.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
but, or, so.

Oh, I thought this was a conjunction post that you were starting.

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Can I get a Who, What, Where, When, and Why ?

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Originally posted by Nellinator
No, not incorrect. The majority of scholarly opinion puts the oldest gnostic gospel at 140AD for a date of composition. That is too late to be of use. The church didn't destroy them. The denied their validity, but they never destroyed them as they would have been unable to do so.

In 381 Theodosisu made heresy a crime.Gnositc writings were deystroyed with fire.A proclamation even said

There shall be no opportunity for any man to go out to the public and to argue about relgion or to discuss it or give any counsel.

you can find that in elaine Pagel (1979) 93.
The supossed heretics continued to copy them however and the second Nicene Council,300 years later repeated the jugdement.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
In 381 Theodosisu made heresy a crime.Gnositc writings were deystroyed with fire.A proclamation even said

There shall be no opportunity for any man to go out to the public and to argue about relgion or to discuss it or give any counsel.

you can find that in elaine Pagel (1979) 93.
The supossed heretics continued to copy them however and the second Nicene Council,300 years later repeated the jugdement.

We are just now finding some of the copies.

They did a good job,but not good enough.When the new testiment was formed they went through many text that were gnostic in nature.Of course most were denied but you can find a lot of Gnostic teachings in the new testiment that suprises people.

Like Christ being with in you.

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Originally posted by debbiejo
Like Christ being with in you.

I'm surprised that Goddess Kali has not chimed in on this. 😱

Actually, this brings up an interesting point...how the hell do you know anything about Christ's life?

Gnostic writings are very interesting, and I believe better written than the gospel and books we have in the bible. I would suggest everyone here reads them, even JIA.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Gnostic writings are very interesting, and I believe better written than the gospel and books we have in the bible. I would suggest everyone here reads them, even JIA.

I agree.They have more of a spiritual base and for the most part,they don't take things as literaly as todays orthodox christians.Gnostics teachings click more in my head.But to each his own.Anyone who has an interest in Christianity should read the gnostic text though.Their's alot of interesting and different stuff in their teachings.