ESB- Luke Skywalker vs. Darth Vader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK6ch_vpoh8
He's not using Form Lightsaber bat...it's a very good fight, I thought.
AOTC - Anakin vs. Dooku. Starts at about 1:38.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1GmEJw8v8
I say the duo in a long hard fight. Honestly...AOTC Obi-Wan didn't seem al that impressive. Look at his speed and skill against Maul when he's angry and then him against Dooku.
Admittedly, Dooku is far stronger than Maul but Obi-Wan was on the offensive and was still not pulling off the crap his padawan self could.
TPM OB1 utilizes an offensive form while AOTC OB1 had been using sorseu (sp?) for 10 years after seeing the holes in the offensive game, hence the reason for lack of speed and ferocity. Plus, all that "going off" on Maul only landed OB1 in a shaft about to die...it wasn't til he calmed himself that he was able to get a lucky hit on Maul.
AOTC OB1 would take his TOM self through patience and style alone. Anakin, who had trained for 10 years total at this point, was far beyond that of a padawan OB1. He did better against Dooku that AOTC OB1 did, and performed far more impressive feats that OB1 ever has.
Luke at the time of ESB is likely on a 12 year old Anakin's level, and would only hinder OB1's progress. Honestly, it could go either way. Anakin could divide and conquer, or he could lose. But to say that OB1 could do it alone is completely asinine.
Originally posted by Tangible God
Faired better for a while, then he got pushed down a bottomless pit. And Quiggy only lost like he did due to being in such a closed space. Not his style.
Where is that stated? It doesn't seem right seeing as Maul wields a larger weapon and seems to use more acrobatics. Also, it didn't seem all that confined. If it is stated clearly though, there's no point in arguing.
Where is that stated? It doesn't seem right seeing as Maul wields a larger weapon and seems to use more acrobatics. Also, it didn't seem all that confined. If it is stated clearly though, there's no point in arguing.
He lost because he was routed into that space by Maul. Maul took up larger space with his weapon while Qui-Gon had little room for mobility, defense or offense.
Yeah, Quiggy was an Ataru man wasn't he? Needed space, that little room with Maul slashing around everywhere made it hard for him to maneuver.
OB touched the Dark Side and he did better, but still got beaten. Only when he cooled down could he get the "jump" on Maul.
AOTC OB, now cooler and calmer, and stronger than his TPM counterpart , uses a defensive style. Get Anakin using a more aggressive style, OB may hold him off long enough to get the better of him.
Luke would stand in awe and wish he could be like them.