ESB Luke & TPM Obi-Wan vs. AOTC Anakin

Started by kiddo443 pages

Originally posted by darthsith19

I'd say that regualar TPM kenobi vs. Anakin is close. Kenobi wins if Anakin gets cocky, otherwise Kenobi wins, but close either way. [/B]

Padawan Anakin is a better swordsman and certainly stronger in the force than Padawan Kenobi, so how would it be close??

Padawan Anakin is a better swordsman and certainly stronger in the force than Padawan Kenobi, so how would it be close??

Because while Anakin's a betetr swordsman and stronger with the Force than TPM kenobi is, TPM Kenobi's Force and saber skills are close to AOTC Anakin's, therefor it is close.

Yes, they are close.

AOTC Anakin is better by TPM Kenobi by some margin, TPM Kenobi would get totally destroyed against Dooku in seconds, i think some people underestimate AOTC Anakin, he was very good in skill, not world class yet, but he was god and if he sucked so badly, then he got 800 better in ROTS, because he didn't get so better, it is logical to assume, he was already very good in AOTC.

Erm, pissed off TPM Obi-Wan would solidly defeat AotC Anakin. Since when did Anakin ever exhibit the kind of skill that Obi-Wan did while he was making Darth Maul his b1tch? Bcos he did ok against Count Dooku, who wasn't even taking the fight seriously? That's great, the guy that Obi-Wan was owning in his DS state almost overwhelmed fricking Darth Sidious in combat, who's easily superior to Count Dooku.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
AOTC Anakin is better by TPM Kenobi by some margin, TPM Kenobi would get totally destroyed against Dooku in seconds, i think some people underestimate AOTC Anakin, he was very good in skill, not world class yet, but he was god and if he sucked so badly, then he got 800 better in ROTS, because he didn't get so better, it is logical to assume, he was already very good in AOTC.
very true, he was very much on par with Jedi Knight Kenobi as a padawan.

TPM Kenobi would not lost to Dooku in seconds, if AOTC Anakin can last 50 some seconds then Kenobi can last 45.

Seeing how Obiwan fight Maul after Qui Gon was down. If you say AOTC Anakin is better than TPM Kenobi by some margin, that means he is able to take down Maul one on one? I don't think so.

Originally posted by vader11
Seeing how Obiwan fight Maul after Qui Gon was down. If you say AOTC Anakin is better than TPM Kenobi by some margin, that means he is able to take down Maul one on one? I don't think so.
If AOTC Anakin was in the position TPM Kenobi was, after Maul had killed Qui-Gon, he could have taken him, Kenobi almost did it, rushing him with the darkside, he busted his saber and kicked him, and AOTC Anakin is stronger in the force and a better swordsman than TPM Kenobi, thats not debatable.

I just can't see AOTC Anakin>Maul.

Originally posted by vader11
I just can't see AOTC Anakin>Maul.
i didn't say he was, but AOTC Anakin=AOTC Kenobi> than his padawan self 10 years prior.

Originally posted by kiddo44
i didn't say he was, but AOTC Anakin=AOTC Kenobi> than his padawan self 10 years prior.
If AOTC Anakin can't beat Maul, I would say he is close to TPM Obiwan, though he may be a little better than Obi.

Originally posted by kiddo44
i didn't say he was, but AOTC Anakin=AOTC Kenobi> than his padawan self 10 years prior.

Yes, but AOTC Kenobi isn't a lot stronger than TPM Kenobi, and no, AOTC Anakin isn't as strogn as AOTC Kenobi. With blades, maybe, but overall, no. Close, but not quite.

Ya, in overall, AOTC Obi still>AOTC Anakin.

Originally posted by vader11
Seeing how Obiwan fight Maul after Qui Gon was down. If you say AOTC Anakin is better than TPM Kenobi by some margin, that means he is able to take down Maul one on one? I don't think so.

Are seriously saying that TPM Kenobi is as good as AOTC Anakin, the most talented padawan in history, AOTC Anakin is on the same level as AOTC Kenobi and the only reason TPM Kenobi did so good against Maul, after he killed Oui-Gon Jinn, was because Maul was taken by surprise, that TPM Kenobi would come so strong, he underestimated him and he quickly corrected that mistake.

Maul would in no way go down to AOTC Anakin, just so you guys know.

Maul killed Anoon Bondara, the Order's lightsaber instructor, who's skills were "second to none" in seconds. Anakin was beaten by people like A'Sharad Hett.

I think, when thinking about Anoon Bondara, you have to take into consideration where these quotes are coming from: Darsha Assant, his padawan, who likely possessed extreme bias for him, and limited knowledge of the jedi order in general. Now sure, we could think of Anoon as being one of the best in the order, as Darsha would have you believe, but then there are also things which conflict with that. For instance, when Darth Maul actually defeats Bondara, he doesn't even take that much pride in his victory, and still longed to face one of the greater Jedi warriors, such as Mace Windu or Plo Koon, in combat, implying that Anoon really wasn't that high up there, and wasn't quite top tier like people such as Yoda, Qui-Gon, Dooku, Mace, Plo Koon, and likely many others.

"Master Bondara epitomized what Darsha hoped to become one day. The Twi'lek Jedi Master lived in the Force. Always still and complacent as a pool of unknown depth, he was nevertheless one of the best fighters in the order. His skill with a lightsaber was second to none. Darsha hoped that one day she might be able to exhibit a tenth of Anoon Bondara's adeptness."

This is stated by the narrator.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Are seriously saying that TPM Kenobi is as good as AOTC Anakin, the most talented padawan in history, AOTC Anakin is on the same level as AOTC Kenobi and the only reason TPM Kenobi did so good against Maul, after he killed Oui-Gon Jinn, was because Maul was taken by surprise, that TPM Kenobi would come so strong, he underestimated him and he quickly corrected that mistake.
When did I say they are equal? I said they are close, though AOTC Anakin may be a little better. Yes, TPM Obiwan can't take Maul one on one, so does AOTC Anakin.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Maul would in no way go down to AOTC Anakin, just so you guys know.

Maul killed Anoon Bondara, the Order's lightsaber instructor, who's skills were "second to none" in seconds. Anakin was beaten by people like A'Sharad Hett.

Who said that, i said that he would do better then TPM Kenobi, but lose as well.