If We Have No Self...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not know, but I do not think it matters.

Why not ?

How can you claim something does not exist, if you do not know what actual existance is/or is composed of ?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
You one time agreed with me that the mental existances are just as valid, if not more valid, than the physical ones.

Originally posted by Mindship

Attachments lead to suffering, but without suffering you cannot appreciate happiness. What sets you free is the knowledge of where the suffering comes from.

Love is an attachment and loneliness is the suffering; if you did not have a self, would you not want love?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Why not ?

How can you claim something does not exist, if you do not know what actual existance is/or is composed of ?

It is the attachment to self that causes suffering.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is the attachment to self that causes suffering.

I know that, but that wasn't my question....

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I know that, but that wasn't my question....

What color is red in ditch darkness? An illusion cannot be real, but can seem to be real.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What color is red in ditch darkness? An illusion cannot be real, but can seem to be real.

So the color red doesn't exist ? Despite it's impact and influence on our nerves, sight, communication, and tastes, it doesn't exist ?

It is safe to argue that the Soul does not exist (according to Buddhist Theory), because of major lack of proof, and desire for self preservation, but according to Buddhist Theory, the self (not soul) is composed of the Five Aggregates.

The Five Aggregates exist. Just because the self is composed of five components, instead of one, does not make it non existant.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
So the color red doesn't exist ? Despite it's impact and influence on our nerves, sight, communication, and tastes, it doesn't exist ?

It is safe to argue that the Soul does not exist (according to Buddhist Theory), because of major lack of proof, and desire for self preservation, but according to Buddhist Theory, the self (not soul) is composed of the Five Aggregates.

The Five Aggregates exist. Just because the self is composed of five components, instead of one, does not make it non existant.

The color red does exist, but not as we perceive it. Light exists, but our perception is only in our head.

I'm not aware of the Five Aggregates.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The color red does exist, but not as we perceive it. Light exists, but our perception is only in our head.

So the Self does exist, but not as we percieve it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not aware of the Five Aggregates.

You are unaware of mental formations, matter, sensation, projections, and conciousness ?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
So the Self does exist, but not as we percieve it.

You are unaware of mental formations, matter, sensation, projections, and conciousness ?

I don't believe that the self exists in the way we all think it does. However, my entity does exist.

I have never studied the Five Aggregates.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe that the self exists in the way we all think it does. However, my entity does exist.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have never studied the Five Aggregates.

Now it makes sense....there is a book entitled

"What the Buddha Taught" - by Walpola Rahula

It's very extensive and interesting. He discusses the Five Aggregates that the Self is composed of.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Now it makes sense....there is a book entitled

"What the Buddha Taught" - by Walpola Rahula

It's very extensive and interesting. He discusses the Five Aggregates that the Self is composed of.

I have a big list of books to read, so it would be a while. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have a big list of books to read, so it would be a while. 😉

LOL

or you could look them up online

I didn't know about the Ten Worlds until you introduced me to them.

Buddhism teaches that self is made up of five distinct parts, i.e. feeling, corporeality, consciousness, perception, and mental formations. Since none of these are permanent as they are subject to change, the individual consciousness remains in a state of flux and change throughout one's existence. In order to attain truth and emancipation from suffering, one must detach himself from the illusion of the involvement of self.

Originally posted by Mindship
The self may not be real, but the self-illusion is.

🙄

Originally posted by debbiejo
Kind of like a lucid dreamer awakening to the reality of the Dream.

🙄

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Buddhism teaches that self is made up of five distinct parts, i.e. feeling, corporeality, consciousness, perception, and mental formations. Since none of these are permanent as they are subject to change, the individual consciousness remains in a state of flux and change throughout one's existence. In order to attain truth and emancipation from suffering, one must detach himself from the illusion of the involvement of self.

A very well informed post, you know ur sh*t 👆

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Buddhism teaches that self is made up of five distinct parts, i.e. feeling, corporeality, consciousness, perception, and mental formations. Since none of these are permanent as they are subject to change, the individual consciousness remains in a state of flux and change throughout one's existence. In order to attain truth and emancipation from suffering, one must detach himself from the illusion of the involvement of self.

What form of Buddhism is that teaching from?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What form of Buddhism is that teaching from?

What form of Buddhism does not teach this?

Originally posted by lord xyz
That's a very fufilling quote. Who said it?

"The Concept of No-Self" by V. Jayaram.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What form of Buddhism does not teach this?

I am a Nichiren Buddhist.