Originally posted by leonheartmm
do enlighten on on where it says in the RED LETTER bible that jesus is the SON of god or is god himself, or an anspect of god.
i doubt very much that ull find any place where jesus himself said that he was the son of god.
John 1:1, 14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and Truth.
This was one of Jesus’ “Names” or “titles” in His pre-incarnate state (i.e. before He took upon Himself a human, fleshly nature, when He was born of the virgin Mary).
Luke 1:31-32, 35
And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.
Son of the Highest is synonymous with Son of God because God is referred to as the “Highest.”
Matthew 8:29
And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”
Even the demons recognized Who Jesus was, they called Him the “Son of God.”
Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God.”
Jesus’ disciples referred to Jesus as the Son of God and they worshipped Him.
Matthew 16:16
Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
The apostle Peter confesses that Jesus is the Messiah. The word Christ is derived from the Greek word “Christos,” which means the same thing as the Hebrew word “Mashiyach” or Messiah. Both titles mean “Anointed One.”
Matthew 26:63-66
But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!” Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy! What do you think?” They answered and said, “He is deserving of death.”
Then they spat in His face and beat Him; and others struck Him with the palms of their hands,
The high priest understood exactly what Jesus said and what He meant then (after tearing his clothes in rage) concluded that Jesus had spoken blasphemy. Those who were present concluded that Jesus was worthy of death (in other words, Jesus had to die for declaring that He was the Son of God).
Matthew 27:43
He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’”
During Jesus’ crucifixion passersby and onlookers acknowledged hearing Jesus say that He was the Son of God.
he never said SPECIFICALLY "my father" while not referring to people in general.
John 10:25
Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me.
John 10:30
I and My Father are one.”
John 12:26
If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.
John 14:7
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
John 15:23
He who hates Me hates My Father also
The Bible states that in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every word be established. I have given you five.
he also never called himself the holy spirit's begotten son, etc. its basically just paul who made all that stuff up and the other APOSTLES/saints. yeshua himself never claimed to be god/son of god. infact from his OWN saying , there lotsa evidence that he did infact put god/yahweh/jehovah in a place similar to the one given to him by muhammad in the quran. the word trinity does not exist in the actual version of the bible but was put in the king james version due to the inability of scholars to remove it as when they did in the 70s in the revised version{this is english translation remember} there was an outcry by the christian populace.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only
begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Paul did not write the gospels. It is recorded in the gospels that Jesus is God’s only Begotten. In fact, Jesus Christ said it Himself in the John 3:16 as recorded by His disciple John.
Matthew 1:18, 20
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
The life and sayings of Jesus Christ were recorded by those who knew Him, walked with Him, witnessed His miracles, heard His teachings, witnessed His crucifixion, burial, resurrection from the dead, and ascension into Heaven. It is asinine, absurd, nonsensical, and just plain unintelligent to conclude that the Truth that Jesus is the Son of God was made up by His apostles.
so there goes ur argument of the quranic god DENYING to have a son as he ACTUALLY did
No, the god of the Qu’ran does not have a son because he denies it on several occasions in his book.
Surah 6:101
The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child,when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?
Surah 18:4,5
And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.
Surah 23:91
Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.
and denying to be triune which he ACTUALLY was.
The god of the Qu’ran denies the existence of any god other than itself or himself. The god of the Qu’ran denies being triune.
Surah 4:171
O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
the quran speaks about INJEEL{the apparently TRUE words of christ and only christ} which was the revelation brought upon him, it does not accept the BIBLE as that revelation. the quran believes that christians changed their relegion due to ignorance to include trinity, son of god etc, {plus things going against the old testament} and the god in islam is infact claimed to be the same god as INJEEL , and abraham's revelaition, ADAM, solomon, etc.{the abrahamic relegions} [/B]
Why do you cite the Injil when many Muslims believe that parts of it have been corrupted? In fact some Muslim scholars think that the meaning or words of the Injil have been distorted, and passages of it suppressed. Muslim scholars believe that other parts of the Injil were added to. So the Injil is not worthy of mentioning because it is not even considered infallible by Muslim scholars. The Qu'ran is the only authoritative source for Islamic adherents.