Originally posted by King_Mungi
Still beat them and we know just those two were going to fight him. Hourman is a beast, don't knock him.Even in the past he was a match for Captain Marvel, he was a reaccuring villian for him.
He still always lost though.....hell,he doesn't even have impressive superspeed.that GL and Hawkman feat shouldn't really matter as it happned off panel so we have no idea what happened,he could have dodged a Gl blast that hit hawkman,then koed GL.or tiny pixies aided him and flew into their ears and ate their brains.We don't know what occured.
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What we do know is a bell can Ko him,and it obvously wasn't thrown hard at all considering the lack of any damage...
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He still always lost though.....hell,he doesn't even have impressive superspeed.that GL and Hawkman feat shouldn't really matter as it happned off panel so we have no idea what happened,he could have dodged a Gl blast that hit hawkman,then koed GL.or tiny pixies aided him and flew into their ears and ate their brains.We don't know what occured.
]What we do know is a bell can Ko him,and it obvously wasn't thrown hard at all considering the lack of any damage...
Doesn't matter he has still proved to be a match for people over the caps. Also highly doubt it, but even if he dodged a GL construct goes with the point he is over the caps.
It was the Liberty Bell no way would they destroy it, and Nazi has taken far worse than that and wasn't knocked out.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Doesn't matter he has still proved to be a match for people over the caps. Also highly doubt it, but even if he dodged a GL construct goes with the point he is over the caps.It was the Liberty Bell no way would they destroy it, and Nazi has taken far worse than that and wasn't knocked out.
aye,so we have a ridiculously low showing and a ridicuosly high one in the same comic.But the fact remains he may have fought Marvel many times but he always lost.He lost to RH and Batan,lost to Cm3,and Black mask and Deathstroke were calling him a lightweight villian.He isn't very far on the heirarchy...
Originally posted by Martian_mind
aye,so we have a ridiculously low showing and a ridicuosly high one in the same comic.But the fact remains he may have fought Marvel many times but he always lost.He lost to RH and Batan,lost to Cm3,and Black mask and Deathstroke were calling him a lightweight villian.He isn't very far on the heirarchy...
Yet when ever he fights Marvel he takes it to him and pushes him to his limits. Right there that's over the caps. It depends on the incarnation as there have been a few.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yet when ever he fights Marvel he takes it to him and pushes him to his limits. Right there that's over the caps. It depends on the incarnation as there have been a few.
Iron man has pushed Thor and SS to their limits....both take a hearty majority over Nazi boy.
Wonderman stalemated thor....
Abom pwned Hulk...
Iron man took it to Namor.....
How in the hell does pushing marvel put him over the Caps?
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Iron man has pushed Thor and SS to their limits....both take a hearty majority over Nazi boy.Wonderman stalemated thor....
Abom pwned Hulk...
Iron man took it to Namor.....
How in the hell does pushing marvel put him over the Caps?
Uh huh, except Nazi was made as a Captain Marvel villian. PIS aside that's who Nazi is a C.Marvel villian.
Wonderman lost to Thor, regardless he even took it to Hulk as well.
Abomination is class 100, and is far over Iron Man's strength cap.
Considering who and what Marvel has done, it easily puts him up there.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Uh huh, except Nazi was made as a Captain Marvel villian. PIS aside that's who Nazi is a C.Marvel villian.Wonderman lost to Thor, regardless he even took it to Hulk as well.
Abomination is class 100, and is far over Iron Man's strength cap.
Considering who and what Marvel has done, it easily puts him up there.
Both Abom and WM are in the tourney....
Pus,Nazi doesn't have speed near Captain marvels,nor has he ever shown it.
And?so he's a CM villian,hammerhead is a Spiderman villian,look at the power difference between them.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Both Abom and WM are in the tourney....Pus,Nazi doesn't have speed near Captain marvels,nor has he ever shown it.
And?so he's a CM villian,hammerhead is a Spiderman villian,look at the power difference between them.
and how do you think I feel about them in this? 👇
He easily keeps up with Marvel's attacks, so don't automatically assume he has no speed
Hammerhead has victories over Spider-Man and your actually comparing Spider-Man to Captain Marvel?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
and how do you think I feel about them in this? 👇He easily keeps up with Marvel's attacks, so don't automatically assume he has no speed
Hammerhead has victories over Spider-Man and your actually comparing Spider-Man to Captain Marvel?
Well the judges don't have a problem,and they didn't have one with Nazi...
So any attack is now automatically at full speed?I doubt it,considering CM3 blitzed him...
No,i wasn't.I was saying that the power gap between Nazi and Marvel is like Spidey and Hammerhead.The villians are far weaker,but they can hang,push them to their limits and occasionaly beat them.(Though Nazi has lost to every member of the marvel family time and time again)
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Well the judges don't have a problem,and they didn't have one with Nazi...So any attack is now automatically at full speed?I doubt it,considering CM3 blitzed him...
No,i wasn't.I was saying that the power gap between Nazi and Marvel is like Spidey and Hammerhead.The villians are far weaker,but they can hang,push them to their limits and occasionaly beat them.(Though Nazi has lost to every member of the marvel family time and time again)
Bad arguement, so the judges didn't notice a problem it's fine? don't you remember the last tourny?
and CM3>Iron Man in terms of speed.
Yet once again as I mentioned earlier, Cap is stalemating and takeing it to and pushing the hero to his limits to people over the caps. Hardly logical comparing Spider-Man villians with Captain Marvel as to hang with him you have to have level of power almost god-like since C_M gains powers from gods.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Bad arguement, so the judges didn't notice a problem it's fine? don't you remember the last tourny?and CM3>Iron Man in terms of speed.
Yet once again as I mentioned earlier, Cap is stalemating and takeing it to and pushing the hero to his limits to people over caps. Hardly logical comparing Spider-Man villians with Captain Marvel as to hang with him you have to have level of power almost god-like since C_M gains powers from gods.
Well,last tourney also went down because people who weren't even involved stirred up trouble where there was none before.
And?Still shows his speed is nmowhere near marvels...so he shouldn't give him trouble without Cis.
Also,you are aware Iron man himself has been picked,and that he has pushed people far above tourney Caps and far above him...
as has Wonderman,and Abom,and Aquaman and a host of others.Hell,even if a character is above caps,everyone has a character who is sketchy,so it's even.Banning Characters just puts others at a disadvantage.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Hell,even if a character is above caps,everyone has a character who is sketchy,so it's even.Banning Characters just puts others at a disadvantage.
that last bit at least is very likely true. there are certainly characters in this that . . . stretch the limit of ironman-level.
though once again, people need to respect ironman a little better. there is not a single draft pick in this tournament that ironman could not or would not beat for at least a few fights.
if there IS someone, anyone care to name the person they think could take tony 10/10?
if someone can take him 6-7/10, personally, i think that's close enough. 😬
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Well,last tourney also went down because people who weren't even involved stirred up trouble where there was none before.And?Still shows his speed is nmowhere near marvels...so he shouldn't give him trouble without Cis.
Also,you are aware Iron man himself has been picked,and that he has pushed people far above tourney Caps and far above him...
as has Wonderman,and Abom,and Aquaman and a host of others.Hell,even if a character is above caps,everyone has a character who is sketchy,so it's even.Banning Characters just puts others at a disadvantage.
No the main reason was in characters were getting in when they shouldn't have and people got upset.
Yet like I mentioned earlier he has gone one on one EXTENDED periods with Captain Marvel so oncwe again don't assume he doesn't have any speed. CM3 still has half the speed of Mercury
He's the cap, so why would he be banned? and when he actually took it to certain characters yes there is PIS involved and that's a fact.
and like I said, what do I think of those picks? 👇 Why no one has raised a fuzz I do not know.