Darth Nihilus vs. Exar Kun vs. Revan

Get one thing straight since you've lost your TK argument virtually everytime.

You seem to be twisting things. The only thing I "lost" was the bit about Nihilus holding the Ravager together. This has no relevance whatsoever to what I'm currently talking about.

My TK argument is canon fact. Nihilus pulled the Ravager and his fleet from the "mass shadows of Malachor."

So, either prove that's not a feat or concede.

Nihilus can't throw anyone around with TK

Prove it. And I'm afraid "well, he didn't do it to the Exile, Canderous and Visas" is not proof.

especially a more powerful force user

Let me know when Kun can speak and kill a planet.

Well you clearly don't know the rules of debate. Notice how I don't have to prove Nihilus drain isn't instant seeing as how there's no evidence that shows that it's instant, so asking me to prove a negative shows how incompetent you are.

I never claimed the drain was instant.

I have nothing to prove.

You made the statement that Nihilus' drain isn't instant and I want evidence to support it.

I really don't care about the rules of debating. I care about people making unfounded claims and not giving any evidence to them

Denial is not just another river in Egypt.

Can Revan kill a planet?

Can he paralyze thousands of people?

No?

He loses. Hard.

Since you're a Noobaris type debater, you certainly don't have an authority on who's inferior to who.

Neobaris is attacked constantly and derided as an idiot by everyone on this board.

If I was so much like him, I'd think I would be constantly shot down as he is in the Darth Bane topics and the like.

But, oddly, it's you and only you who constantly maintain the insults on my debating ability and lack of intelligence.

Insults seems to be more the crux of your own debating style than any sort of fact.

Kun curbstomps Nihilus with the amulet blast

Nihilus throws him around with TK before any blast comes his way.

Your point was defeated so many times, it's getting sad that you keep repeating it. And Nihilus lifted the RAVAGER, that's it.

Do you have some sort of memory problem?

I swear we've been over this in multiple topics.

Tobin says he lifted the Ravager from Malachor "along with his fleet. That is a measure of his power."

So, we have Tobin saying he lifted a fleet from Malachor. Got any evidence to disprove this?

Not to mention if his tk abilities were uber, he'd be throwing Visas and Kreia around like nothing.

He didn't try to throw Visas around and he pwned Kreia by lifting her up and throwing her against a wall with no noticeable difficulty. Also he simultaneously severed her from The Force, according to her words.

Except that Kun is more powerful in the force, so Nihilus doesn't get the chance. Try again.

Yes...Exar's power is so massive he needs entire planets to sustain himself...that individuals are absolutely not even worth his attention.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
My TK argument is canon fact. Nihilus pulled the Ravager and his fleet from the "mass shadows of Malachor."

Prove it. And I'm afraid "well, he didn't do it to the Exile, Canderous and Visas" is not proof.

Let me know when Kun can speak and kill a planet.

I never claimed the drain was instant.

I have nothing to prove.

You made the statement that Nihilus' drain isn't instant and I want evidence to support it.

I really don't care about the rules of debating. I care about people making unfounded claims and not giving any evidence to them

Can Revan kill a planet?

Can he paralyze thousands of people?

No?

He loses. Hard.

Neobaris is attacked constantly and derided as an idiot by everyone on this board.

If I was so much like him, I'd think I would be constantly shot down as he is in the Darth Bane topics and the like.

But, oddly, it's you and only you who constantly maintain the insults on my debating ability and lack of intelligence.

Insults seems to be more the crux of your own debating style than any sort of fact.

Nihilus throws him around with TK before any blast comes his way.

Tobin says he lifted the Ravager from Malachor "along with his fleet. That is a measure of his power."

So, we have Tobin saying he lifted a fleet from Malachor. Got any evidence to disprove this?

He didn't try to throw Visas around and he pwned Kreia by lifting her up and throwing her against a wall with no noticeable difficulty. Also he simultaneously severed her from The Force, according to her words.

Yes...Exar's power is so massive he needs entire planets to sustain himself...that individuals are absolutely not even worth his attention. [/B]

What "fleet"? Lol.. Show me the "fleet". And your TK argument means shit because you assume he can throw people around, yet he hasn't shown anything to that degree.

Aren't you the one who likes to use "logical deduction"? If Nihilus can lift a fleet with his mind, then a human really is no problem.

The fact that he couldn't drain Kreia on Malachor V is proof enough

No one said it was a drain. It doesn't look like a drain. it doesn't have the effect of a drain.

It's not a drain. Give the **** up on that argument already.

"Oh it wasn't a drain, it was a force push because im a moron",

No. It was a Force Push because all we see or hear is her being lifted up and thrown into a wall.

Nothing more.

And please stop being such a child. It makes arguing with you painful.

It's pretty damn obvious to anyone with common sense that he tried to drain her and failed, although she was temporarily stripped of her power.

You do realize that no one but yourself has aruged this fact, right?

Let me know when Nihilus can free hundreds of thousands of people, destroy everything in his path with an amulet blast, use the thought bomb, etc. See, I can be the same moron you are and play feat wars.

All of those things really do not compare to Nihilus' drain.

Nobody here cares what you want fanboy. In a debate I don't ever have to prove a negative. And since there's no evidence showing his drain IS instant, there's no reason to assume it is.

He used it when he wanted to with no visible sign or suggestion of preparation.

ROFL.. I guess Luke also loses to him because he can't perform feat X. What a dumbass. Can Nihilus use a technique that seals jedi and sith spirits for all eternity? Can Nihilus do X, Y, Z? No? Then he loses hard.. Dumbass.

Feats quantify a person's power.

Nihilus can kill a planet by speaking.

In a non-biased person's view, this puts him far above others.

Wow, you're as delusional as Noobaris. I don't ever remember anyone taking your side and instead I remembering your points being defeated by not only me, but others.

This only confirms you have a very horrid memory problem.

From the very first page of this thread.

“Nihilius drains them both.”

X2 “Nihilius drains them both.”

X3 “Nihilius drains them both.”

Since there's no evidence of him doing that and since there's evidence of Kun's blast, NIhilus loses. Sorry fanboy.

Fleet of ships > human being.

Nihilus throws hima round.

Sidious also said Plagueis could cheat death? Should we believe it just because said it? Learn to think robot.

Well, we have logical doubt as to what Sidious was saying. He was purposefully lying and distorting and twisting Anakin.

Can you present any evidence to doubt Tobin's words?

Oh NOW it's a force drain. But but, I thought it was a force push? Stop contradicting yourself dumbshit, it makes you look pathetic. He tried to drain her and failed, then Sion beat the stuffing out of her.

Do you understand what a Force Drain is?

"Force Drain, or sometimes Drain Life, is the dark side equivalent of Force Healing, the difference being that the user drained the target's Force and life reserves to fuel the regenerative process. Greater aptitude allowed exceptional drainage speed and the ability to drain multiple people at once. It manifests itself as orange lightning."

What Kreia says of what happened to her:
"And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

Force Drain? I don't think so...but how about this. This sounds right!

"Sever Force was a forbidden Force power by which a person's connection to the Force was removed from them."

So...can you provide any sort of evidence it was a drain?

Yea, Kun's power is so massive that he walked into the senate chamber untouched, and had all the jedi in the galaxy stop him, while Nihilus couldn't drain Kreia, nor the exile, and got wtfpwned by an average Jedi. WOOOHOOO Nihilus.. Stupid fanboy.

Nihilus power was so great he could go up to a planet full of Jedi and Force sensitives and kill them all by speaking.

His power was so great that, even while starving, he could have killed the Exile.

His power was so great that, even after further weakened himself by trying to drain the Exile, he was still "too powerful."

If that's your definition of WTFPWN, you are the deluded and fanboyish one here.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Aren't you the one who likes to use "logical deduction"? If Nihilus can lift a fleet with his mind, then a human really is no problem.

No one said it was a drain. It doesn't look like a drain. it doesn't have the effect of a drain.

It's not a drain. Give the **** up on that argument already.

No. It was a Force Push because all we see or hear is her being lifted up and thrown into a wall.

Nothing more.

And please stop being such a child. It makes arguing with you painful.

You do realize that no one but yourself has aruged this fact, right?

All of those things really do not compare to Nihilus' drain.

Feats quantify a person's power.

Nihilus can kill a planet by speaking.

In a non-biased person's view, this puts him far above others.

Nihilus throws hima round.

Do you understand what a Force Drain is?

"Force Drain, or sometimes Drain Life, is the dark side equivalent of Force Healing, the difference being that the user drained the target's Force and life reserves to fuel the regenerative process. Greater aptitude allowed exceptional drainage speed and the ability to drain multiple people at once. It manifests itself as orange lightning."

Force Drain? I don't think so...but how about this. This sounds right!

"Sever Force was a forbidden Force power by which a person's connection to the Force was removed from them."

So...can you provide any sort of evidence it was a drain?

Nihilus power was so great he could go up to a planet full of Jedi and Force sensitives and kill them all by speaking.

His power was so great that, even while starving, he could have killed the Exile.

His power was so great that, even after further weakened himself by trying to drain the Exile, he was still "too powerful."

If that's your definition of WTFPWN, you are the deluded and fanboyish one here. [/B]

It was a drain, yet it didn't have the intended a fact. You have lost this debate already, and you continously post because you're in denial, like all poor debaters. It was an unsuccessful drain, get over it tool.

I don't really have to prove anything. It's you who needs to prove it was a drain since it doesn't look like one, have the effect of one or is said to be done by ANYONE AT ANY TIME.

If you can provide ONE shred of evidence it was a drain, I'll concede this entire debate. Just one statement, one piece of evidence saying it was a drain. Because it doesn't look like one or act like one or anything of the sort.

Now you know how I feel when I argue with morons. It was not a force push, especially because she couldn't even call the lightsaber to her anymore. YOu've lost, move on.

You're right. It was a Force Sever.

THat's probably because I'm the only one dumb enough to continue arguing with such a buffoon.

Grow up.

Nonbiased my ass, it's clear that you're a Nihilus fanboy. And I don't recall nihilus ever killing anything while speaking. Otherwise, Visas would have died, so would Kreia, so would Sion. Concede already, it's too easy.

Visas says that when Nihilus spoke, all life on Katarr died.

ROFL, way to throw in a gameplay mechanic from wikipedia into this debate. Not to mention Nihilus' uber force drain wasn't one giant orange lightning bolt, now was it, dolt?

You're right. I think it wa sa big black cloud. Didn't see one of those around Kreia either.

Yet again, if it talks like a duck, and it smells like a duck, it's a damn duck fanboy. You have no argument, go back to the drawing board.

....I have the patience of Jobe to deal with you.

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"And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

"Sever Force was a forbidden Force power by which a person's connection to the Force was removed from them."

Here, let me make it clearer for you.

STRIP DEFINITION
"deprive: take away possessions from someone;"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define😖trip&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

REMOVE DEFINITION
"
get rid of: dispose of"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:remove&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

We have Kreia specifically saying she was stripped of The Force. Force Drain does NOT strip you of the Force according to any definition I've ever seen. Yet we have another technique that correlates quite perfectly to what she says and that is Force Sever.

So, PROV ETHE **** UP it was a drain when it doesn't look like a drain, have the effect of a drain and no one says it was a drain.

Full of jedi? OH you mean the less than 100 Jedi left in the galaxy, the majority of whom have left the order? You might be talking about 2 jedi. More baseless assumptions from the fanboy.

Yes. Less than a 100 Jedi. But no known number known. Could be 99.

Sure he could have! That's why he did! Oh wait..

Because he chose not to?

Do you comprehend the concept of having an opportunity and not seizing it?

Nihilus could have killed the Exile and CHOSE not to.

You're boring me fanboy

Then I'll re-post something I've said like..ten times.

Okay I just want to put an end to the two big anti-Nihilus points.

1. He was beat by the Exile.

This is true but Obi-Wan beating Anakin is true as well. We must actually look at what we know - the factors involved to understand the context in which this fight took place.

First and foremost, what shape was Nihilus in prior to the fight with the Exile?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EogIiuZI9PQ

1:49

"The Master suffers... If he can not feed, then the hunger begins to consume him The planet Telos... He may feed on something upon its surface to sustain himself a while longer."

2:33
"[Kreia] spoke of the Jedi academy here on Telos...and my Master was forced to come here." -Tobin

2:54
"If there are no Jedi here, then my Lord cannot feed his hunger. He will destroy the planet, the station... he will cleanse it of life. ...and if there are no Jedi below, he will have no other choice."

So...this is the shape Nihilus is in. He “suffers” and is “forced” to come to Telos to try and “sustain him[self] a while longer.”(2:01)

So, the Exile, Visas and the Mandalore all proceed to the bridge of The Ravager and confront Nihilus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8iniopJ3U

The subtitles aren’t in English but it’s the clearest vid I could find of this.

At 00:34, Nihilus stuns the Exile. Exile is totally defenseless. Nihilus already won the fight you could say. He can just chop of the Exile’s head here and now.

But he chooses not to. He chooses, because he “suffers”, to try and drain the Exile. (1:08) He then falls down before getting back up, withdrawing his saber and preparing to fight.

So, let’s go over what we know.

-Nihilus “suffers” because he needs to feed and was “forced” to come to Telos as a desperate attempt to “sustain him[self] a while longer.”

-He had the Exile at his mercy and chose to try and drain her, thus further weakening himself.

Jump to the end of the fight. After the Mandalore, Visas and the Exile have been assaulting him.

What were the results of that initial conflict?

Visas: “He... is too powerful...” (1:56)

So, the only canon account we have of how that first skirmish went was that apparently he was either beating the crap out of all of them or whatever they did had no effect. And this is him doubly weakened.

So, that’s all there is to it.

Yes, the Exile beat him but the circumstances and facts more than make that a wholly pointless blackmark on Nihilus’ power.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
I don't really have to prove anything. It's you who needs to prove it was a drain since it doesn't look like one, have the effect of one or is said to be done by ANYONE AT ANY TIME.

If you can provide ONE shred of evidence it was a drain, I'll concede this entire debate. Just one statement, one piece of evidence saying it was a drain. Because it doesn't look like one or act like one or anything of the sort.

You're right. It was a Force Sever.

Visas says that when Nihilus spoke, all life on Katarr died.

"And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

"Sever Force was a forbidden Force power by which a person's connection to the Force was removed from them."[/b][/size]

Here, let me make it clearer for you.

STRIP DEFINITION
"deprive: take away possessions from someone;"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define😖trip&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

REMOVE DEFINITION
"
get rid of: dispose of"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:remove&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

We have Kreia specifically saying she was stripped of The Force. Force Drain does NOT strip you of the Force according to any definition I've ever seen. Yet we have another technique that correlates quite perfectly to what she says and that is Force Sever.

So, PROV ETHE **** UP it was a drain when it doesn't look like a drain, have the effect of a drain and no one says it was a drain.
Youre a moronic robot.

[quote]Yes. Less than a 100 Jedi. But no known number known. Could be 99.

Because he chose not to?

Do you comprehend the concept of having an opportunity and not seizing it?

Nihilus could have killed the Exile and CHOSE not to.

"The Master suffers... If he can not feed, then the hunger begins to consume him The planet Telos... He may feed on something upon its surface to sustain himself a while longer."

So, the only canon account we have of how that first skirmish went was that apparently he was either beating the crap out of all of them or whatever they did had no effect. And this is him doubly weakened.

I'm going to assume you don't know what canon is.

Game mechanics aren't canon.

Things scene in cutscenes are.

So, the only canon result of that fight is what we see in the scene following it which is him being "too powerful."

Gee, then I guess he's not as uber powerful as you'd like to believe. His fluke of being a wound in the force is negated by his need to feast.

You claw at straws to try and do anything and everything to demean Nihilus. You claim him being a wound is a "fluke." Can you provide any evidence of that? We don't even know HOW he became one.

No dumbass it couldn't me 99, because there's also kreia, and all the jedi masters that judged the exile, so at the very most you're looking at a # around 80 which is VERY generous since it was stated that the majority LEFT the order.

Why would Kreia be one of the Jedi left...?

No tool, she said she was stripped of her power. This is why I don't debate with morons. If she was stripped of her power, she wouldn't have been able to even move the lightsaber. Since there's no canon evidence of Nihilus knowing a force sever, and since a force drain does exactly what it did to Kreia, which makes her weak and makes it difficult for her to use the force, then it's a force drain. Try again.

You're mixing two quotes.

The one she dictates during that scene "cast downa dn stripped of her power" is not the quote I'm using.

The whole quote is

"There will be those who will deny the force, try to forget it, but they manitan unconusius ties. And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

So, she specifically says she was stripped of The Force.

Force Drain doesn't strip you of anything.

Ever heard of a hyperbole? Nihilus drained the planet in whatever way, but you take things too literally because if that were the case, Visas would have died when NIhilus spoke, so would Kreia in all the time she instructed Nihilus.

Maybe he has to say something specific.

Typical robot, I just gave you the logical deduction. That's like me asking "prove to me with a quote where Nihilus is more powerful than Revan".

No. It's like asking you to prove something that is not supported by any statement, scene or logic.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Game mechanics aren't canon.

Things scene in cutscenes are.

So, the only canon result of that fight is what we see in the scene following it which is him being "too powerful."

You claw at straws to try and do anything and everything to demean Nihilus. You claim him being a wound is a "fluke." Can you provide any evidence of that? We don't even know HOW he became one.

"There will be those who will deny the force, try to forget it, but they manitan unconusius ties. And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

So, she specifically says she was stripped of The Force.

Force Drain doesn't strip you of anything.

No. It's like asking you to prove something that is not supported by any statement, scene or logic. [/B]

Really, so the cutscene when Sion confronts Nihilus and tells him he doesn't need him anymore, is also canon?

That's such a horrible misrepresentation that it's absurd.

Cutscenes are canon.

I should not have to specify cutscenes in the game are canon.

That goes without saying.

Omg Visas says he's too powerful so he MUST be. I guess because Kyp thought he had more force potential than LUke, he automatically does!

Relevance? Zero? Thanks.

Kyp thinking he's stronger than Luke has nothing in common with this scene at all.

Visas had just battled Nihilus. You think she wouldn't know he's too powerful? Plus the Exile's options for speaking at this point agree with Visas.

I don't think you know what a strawman is. Furthermore, it only seems like diminishing to a fanboy like you who likes to verbally fellate him. And being a wound in the force is defined as a fluke, so what I said is actually fact, not a fallacy.

Fluke is defined as a stroke of luck from what I can find...so how are wounds in The Force a fluke, exactly?

And it is diminishing since you attribute his powers to being a wound in the Force which can not be supported by anything.

She never says she was stripped of the force. During the force drain scene she says she was stripped of her power and there are techniques in the force for which there is no defense. Unfortunately for you, there ARE defenses for "wall of light" techniques, shown by Exar Kun when he had his amulet on against Odan. Yet there was no defense for Nihilus' force drain at the time, so it's common sense.

Let me help you.

And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

Learn to debate.

i know how to debate.

It involves facts.

Something you have none of when it comes to Nihilus draining Kreia.

All facts point to the opposite, including her own statement, the fact it doesn't look like a drain and logic.

[QUOTE=8840561]Originally posted by Nikkolas
You're mixing two quotes.

The one she dictates during that scene "cast downa dn stripped of her power" is not the quote I'm using.

The whole quote is

"There will be those who will deny the force, try to forget it, but they manitan unconusius ties. And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

Just by curiosity at what cutscene is she suppose to say that?

Person I got it from said

at the end of K2, when she is talking about how the exile is unique, Kreia said:

Originally posted by Nikkolas
That's such a horrible misrepresentation that it's absurd.

Cutscenes are canon.

I should not have to specify cutscenes in the game are canon.

That goes without saying.

Visas had just battled Nihilus. You think she wouldn't know he's too powerful? Plus the Exile's options for speaking at this point agree with Visas.

Fluke is defined as a stroke of luck from what I can find...so how are wounds in The Force a fluke, exactly?

And it is diminishing since you attribute his powers to being a wound in the Force which can not be supported by anything.

And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."
Yet that quote has nothing to do with the scene itself, seeing as how he drained her, and she could still use the force. If you had any common sense, you'd realize that she wouldn't be able to use the force at ALL if it was stripped from her.

i know how to debate.

It involves facts.

Something you have none of when it comes to Nihilus draining Kreia.

All facts point to the opposite, including her own statement, the fact it doesn't look like a drain and logic. [/B]

Nihilus drains them both. You have to be a wound in the force to stand up to Nihilus.

As for the whole Kreia angle by Darthsexy. You do realise that he willfully humiliated Kreia, that he willfully stripped her of her powers in the force? That by definintion, Nihilus never attempted to kill Kreia?

The fact that she categorically states that she was stripped of her power and humiliated should be evidence enough of this. You don't have an argument here.

The cutscene of Traya's betrayal shows Nihilus weakening her and then Sion proceeds to pummel her, never making an attempt to kill her outright even when she's at his mercy.

A. Do you ever go outside? You've been here all day.
B. Not all cutscenes are canon, seeing as how that seen I just described wasn't. Try again.

Did I say ALL cutscenes are canon?

I said cutscenes are canon. It does not require specification as to "cutscenes in the game are canon." That's just common sense?

And I do not like outside. I prefer reading. The Godfather is a great book, ya know.

Too powerful for who, Visas? The Exile? The force itself? Visas is an authority on only Visas.

Well...considering they (Exile, Visas and Canderous) had just fought Nihilus...and said "he's too powerful" I'm assuming she's talking about them. And the Exile's options of dialogue support this.

You don't call what happened to the exile and Nihilus a stroke of luck?

Didn't the Exile make herself cut off from The Force? She willingly severed herself off from it, right?

How is that luck? Luck requires forces higher than what we ourselves can do bringing something extremely unlikely to pass. If the Exile did it herself, under her own power, it's not luck.

Right, because he represents the death in the force, when Visas looks at him she sees death and a wound in the force, etc. Yes, his powers are attributed to him being a wound in the force, just like the exile.

A wound in the Force does not grant powers or abilities as far as I know. Nihilus' various techniques and strengths are his own because he learned them.

Yet that quote has nothing to do with the scene itself, seeing as how he drained her, and she could still use the force. If you had any common sense, you'd realize that she wouldn't be able to use the force at ALL if it was stripped from her.

So, you are saying YOU are right and she is wrong? You know more than her about what happened to HER?

I don't dismiss quotes because they don't fit my ideas. I make sense of them. There are explanations for why the saber moved. Example: Nihilus Force Pushed her into the wall, she was going to pull the saber to her and then Nihilus executed the Sever Force.

The fact remaisn though, you have no evidence at all it was a drain. You need to stop arguing this because no one agrees with you and there's no statements, no logic, no nothing to support it. Until such time you can give me ONE bit of solid evidence that ISN'T just YOUR conjecture, it's not a Force Drain.

Says the delusional fanboy who can't provide a logical argument.

Says the fanboy who doesn't ASSume things that are not proveable whatsoever.

YOU. CAN. NOT. PROVE. IT. WAS. A. DRAIN.

Accept it and move on.

A. You don't know what Nihilus' drain looks like

I do.

On planetary scale, it looks like a big dark cloud.

On individuals such as the Exile, it looks like orange lightning.

Neither of which are present in the scene with Kreia.

while there is a defense for being stripped of the force

Evidence?

and logic points to the fact that she could still barely use the force, meaning she was drained but not completely.

Sorry but in-game quotes are there for a reason.

She specifically says she was stripped of the Force.

Or do you think you know what happened to her more than she does?

While responding to all of that bullshit is counterproductive seeing as how I don't have time to be on here 24/7 responding to your nonsense, I'm just going to state that in game quotes are on a case by case, canon, so stop with the bullshit that they're "there for a reason". Allankles, I don't care. Your opinion means nothing. Furthermore, I've given evidence and ample logical deduction to show it was a drain. I don't care if your fanboyistic views get in the way of common sense.

@ Nikkolas

Here is what Revan can do to win. He can quickly "Force Jump" right very near to the position of Nihilus with his ignited Saber and then slice him.

Now what can Nihilus do to counter this move?

Originally posted by Allankles
Nihilus drains them both. You have to be a wound in the force to stand up to Nihilus.

There are some ways to defeat Nihilus in a close encounter.

Case 1: If a Jedi has mastered "Force Cloak" technique. That Jedi can fool Nihilus and kill him.

Case 2: A wise, experienced and powerful Jedi Knight like Revan and Yoda can quickly "Force Jump" right very near to the position of Nihilus and slice him with Saber.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ Nikkolas

Here is what Revan can do to win. He can quickly "Force Jump" right very near to the position of Nihilus with his ignited Saber and then slice him.

Now what can Nihilus do to counter this move?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Wrong assumption indeed...

There are some ways to defeat Nihilus in a close encounter.

Case 1: If a Jedi has mastered "Force Cloak" technique. That Jedi can fool Nihilus and kill him.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Case 2: A wise, experienced and powerful Jedi Knight like Revan and Yoda can quickly "Force Jump" right very near to the position of Nihilus and slice him with Saber.

Originally posted by Kadesh
And can nihilus or kun not do the same? Nihilus obviusly has his saber to defend, If revan is going to kill nihilus, its going to be through the force

Jedi Sentinels and Consulars seldom demonstrate this ability or are seldom taught to do so. And we do not know that what Jedi class Nihilus had practised, if he ever was a Jedi.

Revan is a Jedi Knight and he uses Force Jump often. Yoda uses Ataru and it makes him very acrobatic and he did demonstrated Force Jump technique as well. So they can use this ability to land very close to Nihilus position and then start shitting on him with Saber.

And Revan can destroy Nihilus in Saber Combat as well. Your assumption is wrong thet he can only beat him with the Force.