Darth Nihilus vs. Exar Kun vs. Revan

Started by S_W_LeGenD4 pages

Originally posted by Kadesh
As if the jedis cant be sensed through the force

Sensing through the Force is a different thing then attacking a Jedi who is standing near to you and ready to kill you. Speed and Skill are the true deciding factors in this case.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Anakin also forced jumped towards obiwan yet obi wan blocked the attack

Anakin jumped right on to the Obi-Wan which was a fatal mistake.

I am saying that Revan and Yoda can Force Jump right very close to the position of Nihilus and then attack instantly. This is not impossible.

And even if Nihilus managed to block the move with his Saber, he will have no choice left but to engage in a Saber duel and he will loose to guys like Revan and Yoda in Saber Combat.

Of-course, this is one scenario in which Nihilus can be killed.

I actually think that if Exar and/or Revan could immediately get Nihilus in a saber fight that they have a good chance of killing him. We do not know how good with a saber Nihilus we really is and we do know that Kun was deadly in saber combat.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sensing through the Force is a different thing then attacking a Jedi who is standing near to you and ready to kill you. Speed and Skill are the true deciding factors in this case.
Well you have to back a distance before you can cloak yourself, Try going near any sith lord and then try to clock, see what happens.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Anakin jumped right on to the Obi-Wan which was a fatal mistake.
Im talking about the time when both of them forced pushed each other, and so what if you force jump then attack?
The defender(nihilus) may very well replicate what obi wan did to anakin. Just because you jump and attack doesnt garentee you will slay him or her weather or not your experienced and skillful, it leaves you open to either getting slashed or force pushed to counter

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

And even if Nihilus managed to block the move with his Saber, he will have no choice left but to engage in a Saber duel and he will loose to guys like Revan and Yoda in Saber Combat.

Of-course, this is one scenario in which Nihilus can be killed.

I would agree, but you were argueing once anybody jumps and attacks, nihilus dies which is not the cased but yea ill agree here

Bottom line is, Revan and Kun are more powerful while Nihilus has one powerful technique, so it could go either way between the 3, but I see Nihilus as the odd man out due to the fact that nothing states that he's a good saber duelist, and Revan's vast ancient sith knowledge coupled with Kun's amulet blast and sith magic.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Bottom line is, Revan and Kun are more powerful while Nihilus has one powerful technique, so it could go either way between the 3, but I see Nihilus as the odd man out due to the fact that nothing states that he's a good saber duelist, and Revan's vast ancient sith knowledge coupled with Kun's amulet blast and sith magic.

I agree with what you said but still I do not think that Nihilus is adept in only one technique.

You forgot to notice that Nihilus send Darth Traya flying in the air towards the wall with his single Force attack during a fight between them before the events of KOTOR II and Darth Traya is not average by any means.

Nihilus is indeed a very powerful Sith Lord and can be safely considered to be among the most dangerous Sith Lords in Star Wars history.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ Nikkolas

Here is what Revan can do to win. He can quickly "Force Jump" right very near to the position of Nihilus with his ignited Saber and then slice him.

Now what can Nihilus do to counter this move?

Are you serious?

The evidence says that the most likely outcome is that Nihilus drains them both. Being a powerful force sensitive is a weakness against Nihilus not a strength, as his 'hunger' is likely to be strongly attracted to any great convergence of the force.

Originally posted by Advent

Tatooine, according to The Essential Guide to Planet and Moons, only holds a population of 200,000. Likewise, there are several other planets that inhabitants do not rise into the millions.

So, you're wrong. Not all planets are Coruscant or Corellia, you know.

You're right about not every planet being Corellia and Coruscant, but Katarr to our knowledge wasn't a desert planet on the edge of the galaxy, populated by criminals, slaves and moisture farmers.

Also, we have to consider that Katarr was the home of an entire race, unlike Tatooine.

Originally posted by Allankles
You're right about not every planet being Corellia and Coruscant, but Katarr to our knowledge wasn't a desert planet on the edge of the galaxy, populated by criminals, slaves and moisture farmers. Also, we have to consider that Katarr was the home of an entire race, unlike Tatooine.

That's largely irrelevant.

Janus X's insinuation was simply because a planet is capable of holding "millions/billions" that it does, and thusly that's the amount he drained. The fact that Tatooine doesn't hold that, or that there are not that many inhabitants leads one to believe that it's not necessarily the case.

How does any of what you're saying suggest that they numbered even in the millions? It doesn't. We don't have to consider anything, in fact, because the amount of Miraluka were not specified.

Galantos is also where the Fia (a sentient species) reside at, yet they have half a million in terms of their population (source: Coruscant and the Core Worlds). Aside from the fact that the planet itself is locationed in the Core Worlds, along a trade route. So, you really don't have a point.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Nihilus is indeed a very powerful Sith Lord and can be safely considered to be among the most dangerous Sith Lords in Star Wars history.

I wouldnt say he is among the most dangerous, he IS the most dangerous if no one attempts to stop him

You think he's more dangerous than Sidious?

Sidious should be more dangerous since he is more powerful & aggressive.

Various people find various things more dangerous than you would.

For instance, would you say a madman with a gun is more dangerous than a precision killer with a gun? The madman has no real control or restraint and thus makes him an untamed beast who is unpredictable and vicious. But the expert killer is a trained beast - who is more skilled in what he does but is less likely to appear randomly and slaughter people.

I could easily say Nihilus is more dangerous than Palpatine becomes under Palpatine, there is still a future. An oppressed one but a future. Sidious poses no immediate threat to me as long as I comply to the Empire. Nihilus doesn't care. He'll devour everything in the Galaxy with no discrimination or care. There's no reasoning or avoiding it. He'll consume everything till nothing is left.

and that just happened right? Like, he didn't "purposely" do it, rather his place in the force just caused that to happen? I was seriously asking though, cause like you said, different people see different things as dangerous.

and that just happened right? Like, he didn't "purposely" do it, rather his place in the force just caused that to happen? I was seriously asking though, cause like you said, different people see different things as dangerous.

What are you referring to? Nihilus needing to eat the Galaxy? I have no idea what caused it. Presumably his mastery of Force Drain or that in conjunction with however he became a wound in the Force.

Palpatine wanted to control the galaxy, not destroy it and he doesnt view his adepts or allys as "food" like nihilus, He wanted to keep the galaxy, not deny the existence of life

Kun ftw.

Originally posted by Advent
No, the Massassi forfeited their lives to give power to their energy to fuel the ritual using alchemical objects. So, it's not as if he used his own powers to do such, as even he himself stated that he did not fully understand it.

Tatooine, according to The Essential Guide to Planet and Moons, only holds a population of 200,000. Likewise, there are several other planets that inhabitants do not rise into the millions.

So, you're wrong. Not all planets are Coruscant or Corellia, you know.

Hey Advent is there a section on Ambria in that?

Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Hey Advent is there a section on Ambria in that?

In the Essential Guide to Planets and Moons? Yes. There's also information which tells more of the historic events of Ambria, in the Tales of the Jedi Companion, if you were wondering.

Cool, I'm not going to be difficult and ask you to scan them but is it true that Thon fought an Ancient Sith Woman so powerful that when he defeated her, she destroyed all life on the planet with a single attack?

Destroyed all life on the plantet with a single attack? Can Luke even do that?