I'd go with DC, not out of safety, but because Marvel civilians are fools and bigots.
Mutant hatred is rampant, it'd be like living in the US South in the 60s.
Marvel civilians do stuff like this. They show an inability to judge people by how often they've saved the world/people's lives/etc. as opposed to whether they look funny, and they overwhelming picked anti-reg doing a mandatory draft/forced service of anyone who happened to have powers (and arresting oodles of people who did so voluntarily), followed by Osborne soon after.
I'm afraid if I lived on Marvel earth, I'd die of blood loss from the wounds caused by all the head-desking I'd do. Marvel civilians are idiots.
Originally posted by Q99
I'd go with DC, not out of safety, but because Marvel civilians are fools and bigots.Mutant hatred is rampant, it'd be like living in the US South in the 60s.
Marvel civilians do stuff like this. They show an inability to judge people by how often they've saved the world/people's lives/etc. as opposed to whether they look funny, and they overwhelming picked anti-reg doing a mandatory draft/forced service of anyone who happened to have powers (and arresting oodles of people who did so voluntarily), followed by Osborne soon after.
I'm afraid if I lived on Marvel earth, I'd die of blood loss from the wounds caused by all the head-desking I'd do. Marvel civilians are idiots.
I should post scans of the women who tried to accuse Green Arrow of stealing her purse after he got it back from a mugger. I dunno didn't Lex become President or something, I have feeling you're exaggerating.
Originally posted by Deadline
I should post scans of the women who tried to accuse Green Arrow of stealing her purse after he got it back from a mugger. I dunno didn't Lex become President or something, I have feeling you're exaggerating.
There's still idiots, sure, and it varies city-to-city (one issue of Steel had him coming back to Metropolis from Jersey City and having to re-adjust to people used to heroes and who understood him falling from the sky and damaging a car wasn't his fault), you definitely can find some areas of idiocy around, but it's not nearly as wide-spread.
Post-crisis, Lex maintained a very good public image, especially once he got into a clone body (as far as the public knew at the time of the election, he's not the original lex. His public image didn't get really low until 52), a large part of why Superman has so much trouble with him.
Everyone knew Osborne was previously the Goblin and could see his policies, and that the reg act was a draft and that heroes who had helped save the world were being arrested and thrown in a gulag and that known murderers were being pushed as the new heroes in Thunderbolts, and Luthor actually did a surprisingly good job as President, especially publicly. He didn't push any policy as obviously bad as the reg act- probably the most evil-seeming was the deal with Apokalips, which kept Earth off their hitlist and even helped save the day when Imperiex attacked.
And there's the mutant thing; it just stays around and plenty of horrible, horrible programs and laws get sponsored by the government because they're anti-mutant, like the Sentinel programs.
That's really the big one. Anti-mutant hatred has never not been wide-spread in Marvel. I'd hate that so much.
Originally posted by Q99
There's still idiots, sure, and it varies city-to-city (one issue of Steel had him coming back to Metropolis from Jersey City and having to re-adjust to people used to heroes and who understood him falling from the sky and damaging a car wasn't his fault), you definitely can find some areas of idiocy around, but it's not nearly as wide-spread.
Giving yet another example doesn't help you. Yea you can argue that it's more widespread but labelling marvel civilians as merely idiots is just trying to paint a black and white picture.
Originally posted by Q99
Post-crisis, Lex maintained a very good public image, especially once he got into a clone body (as far as the public knew at the time of the election, he's not the original lex. His public image didn't get really low until 52), a large part of why Superman has so much trouble with him.
Maybe you're right but I suspect you're simplfying thing.
Originally posted by Q99Everyone knew Osborne was previously the Goblin and could see his policies, and that the reg act was a draft and that heroes who had helped save the world were being arrested and thrown in a gulag and that known murderers were being pushed as the new heroes in Thunderbolts,
Not that simple. Namor once tried to invade the earth but has ended up being a member of The Avengers. I think Wanda and Quicksilver used to be bad guys.
Not to mention that Osborne managed to manipulate events ie he was seen on TV actually fighting and killing Skrulls while it looked like Tony was running away.
Originally posted by Q99and Luthor actually did a surprisingly good job as President, especially publicly. He didn't push any policy as obviously bad as the reg act- probably the most evil-seeming was the deal with Apokalips, which kept Earth off their hitlist and even helped save the day when Imperiex attacked.
What you think thats a good point? Sure Osborne lost it in the end but he did actually save the earth once, he also saved civiliians from Atlantean terrorists.
Originally posted by Q99And there's the mutant thing; it just stays around and plenty of horrible, horrible programs and laws get sponsored by the government because they're anti-mutant, like the Sentinel programs.
That's really the big one. Anti-mutant hatred has never not been wide-spread in Marvel. I'd hate that so much.
Yeah because if you got people who can control your thoughts or destroy the earth you shouldn't be scared. facepalm Not saying everything they did was justified but fi you're not scared and you don't make precautions you're an idiot.
The public not pressuring superheroes and the authorities to finally deal with The Joker is pretty idiotic and moreso.
Originally posted by Deadline
Giving yet another example doesn't help you. Yea you can argue that it's more widespread but labelling marvel civilians as merely idiots is just trying to paint a black and white picture.
It's not black and white, but Civil War made it clear that drafting people in incredibly unethical ways had massive public support. I can't think of a single instance on that level in DC.
Marvel is, on the whole, worse in these respects than DC, because dealing with these things is often major plot points.
Yeah because if you got people who can control your thoughts or destroy the earth you shouldn't be scared. facepalm Not saying everything they did was justified but fi you're not scared and you don't make precautions you're an idiot.
And the other 99% of mutants?
Being afraid of Magneto is rational. The anti-mutant hatred common in normal people in Marvel is not, and often, regularly involves targeting the mutants that help protect everyone from those few mutants they should be legitimately afraid of more-so than they do the actual problem ones.
It's not like they don't have precautions in DC either. DC has organizations like Checkmate, the JLA and JSA looking in on them, etc.. Heck, Marvel has precautions! SHIELD, the Avengers, and the X-men. It doesn't stop them from approving Sentinels on multiple occasions and turning a blind eye to stuff like hate churches murdering mutants.
DC does have some people who hate the 'godlike' Superheroes- Maxwell Lord comes to mind. But he doesn't care less about the million random people with an active metagene and some minor power, he cares entirely about the people who are strong enough to shape the path of the world.
The public not pressuring superheroes and the authorities to finally deal with The Joker is pretty idiotic and moreso.
True, but that applies to both of 'em, it's not like the authorities executed Carnage.
I'm focusing on the areas that are different. Mutants suffer wide-scale prejudice in marvel, but there's no such targeting of a group in DC. Both of them are irresponsible with supervills because, well, that's the genre, but since they're the same it doesn't affect the choice anyway.
Originally posted by Q99
It's not black and white, but Civil War made it clear that drafting people in incredibly unethical ways had massive public support. I can't think of a single instance on that level in DC.Marvel is, on the whole, worse in these respects than DC, because dealing with these things is often major plot points.
Yea so what? It was understandable and a human reaction that doesn't make them idiots like you claimed they were, in fact Marvel civilians seem more intelligent. Hell I'm not even sure if all the drafting was all that unethical.
Originally posted by Q99
And the other 99% of mutants?Being afraid of Magneto is rational. The anti-mutant hatred common in normal people in Marvel is not, and often, regularly involves targeting the mutants that help protect everyone from those few mutants they should be legitimately afraid of more-so than they do the actual problem ones.
Is Magento the only evil mutant?
No actually being afraid of mutants is rational period. Considering that Xavier has proven to be quite manipulative it's understandable that they watch the 'good' guys as well.
Not to mention that mutants are actually superior to humans regardless of wether they're evil or not.
Originally posted by Q99
It's not like they don't have precautions in DC either. DC has organizations like Checkmate, the JLA and JSA looking in on them, etc.. Heck, Marvel has precautions! SHIELD, the Avengers, and the X-men. It doesn't stop them from approving Sentinels on multiple occasions and turning a blind eye to stuff like hate churches murdering mutants.DC does have some people who hate the 'godlike' Superheroes- Maxwell Lord comes to mind. But he doesn't care less about the million random people with an active metagene and some minor power, he cares entirely about the people who are strong enough to shape the path of the world.
Look man I'm just telling you prejuidice to mutants is justified.
Originally posted by Q99True, but that applies to both of 'em, it's not like the authorities executed Carnage.
Not sure if thats comparable. Carnage hasn't killed as many people, never nearly destroyed the earth and he doesn't break out of jaill all the time. In fact hes been in jail quite awhile.
Originally posted by Q99I'm focusing on the areas that are different. Mutants suffer wide-scale prejudice in marvel, but there's no such targeting of a group in DC. Both of them are irresponsible with supervills because, well, that's the genre, but since they're the same it doesn't affect the choice anyway.
The fact that they target mutants shows you that Marvel civilians are intelligent and realistic. Hell in the real world mutants would have conquered and enslaved us.
Mutants being a race does kinda make you hate them more than meta-humans but to an extent it is splitting hairs.
Originally posted by Deadline
I should post scans of the women who tried to accuse Green Arrow of stealing her purse after he got it back from a mugger. I dunno didn't Lex become President or something, I have feeling you're exaggerating.
late, but:
lex is only known to be a villain by a minority of people. to the general public his image is as good as that of bill gates or something.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Marvel. I don't want to get retconned every 5 years.
marvel stuff gets rectonned too... shrug
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Well then...Marvel because they have the real king of Atlantis uhuh👆
Aquaman never had SHIELD at his door dictating policy.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Things in marvel get retconned. The whole DC universe gets retconned though.
So just pray you aren't one of those people that get retconned, then.
