Who can beat Superman inside the Sun's Core?!

I'm not saying Thanos wins here.

I was just disputing the Kazaar incident, and laughing at you for trying to pass the SquirrelGirl incident as anything but comedy for comedies sake.

And Thanos has always beaten Drax down. This one showing was the outlier, and not the norm.

But the fact that the comic specifically reiterated that Drax is the silver Bullet to Thanos, doesn't make it as bad.

And if you wanna go down this road about cloning, doesn't that mean a Bataxe>> DD, since he was made by repeat cloning, and in S/B Batman and Amazons were taking out numerous clones(which are supposed to grow stronger from the base material)??

A Thanos clone isn't Thanos.

Originally posted by Soljer
The Surfer can kind of control energy. 😐.

He needn't emit it lest he cares to, and I'd like to think Norrin's smart enough to to go firing yellow sun radiation all over the place. He could always convert it to cosmic energy, red sun radiation or something else, however...

Superman has shown that he is able to control energy, matter, and reality, you can't genuinely say he hasn't done these things on panel on a magnitude that overshadows anything SS has done in similar regard.

Superman also showed on panel that he is able to absorb more then just yellow solar radiation, he has absorbed other energy and then converted it to fuel himself.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Superman has shown that he is able to control energy, matter, and reality.

Unless you want play semantic games I'd really like to see some evidence of this.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless you want play semantic games I'd really like to see some evidence of this.

Superman warped reality when using T-vo against Dom.

Superman warped and manipulated matter on a grand scale when he completely changed the Super Sun eater.

Superman absorbed a myriad of energies and even absorbed faster then he was being drained by the (ah I dont remember the name of this enemy); he stated he was able to reabsorb energy from all around him from everything, faster then he could be drained.

^Think akin to the Sentry Vs Photon fight.

This is why i laugh at you

Originally posted by UniOmni
This is why i laugh at you

As if the laughing of a biased fanboy matters?

lol

Could anyone who can destroy/absorb/manipulate the sun win?

Originally posted by Mr Master
In what issue did Surfer absorb a Sun?

That does sound a bit beyond his capacity, unless there was plot device,

but I'll believe it if I see it.

Issue #s please.

When Surfer tried to absorb the essence of a Single Planet, he failed and nearly died:

Originally posted by Soljer
The Surfer can kind of control energy. 😐.

He needn't emit it lest he cares to, and I'd like to think Norrin's smart enough to to go firing yellow sun radiation all over the place. He could always convert it to cosmic energy, red sun radiation or something else, however...

Someone mentioned Quasar. He's an iffy. One time, he fought Surfer head-on, but he was doing it by secretly leeching Surfer's own power without him knowing it. Maybe he could do the same to Superman. Then again, Quasar still lost the fight.

Ion
Firestorm
Captain Atom (he has control over radiation, right?)
particularly smart GL-type character

I can see a GL using a forcefield to refract the yellow sunlight, mess with its wavelength and make it red sun radiation. Any energy manipulator who could survive in the sun's core could possibly win.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Absorbing a sentient and highly powerful cosmic entity that resists and fights back is different than absorbing a neutral energy source that doesn't fight back. Surfer has absorbed suns before, heralds like Nova have instantly and easily completely snuffed out suns as well. It's in the respect thread and unfortunately, there are no issue numbers. This isn't wikipedia.
Other than equally absorbing the yellow sun along with Superman or just sucking it out, he could: 1) Change the yellow-sun radiation into a different form of radiation; 2) create a field that prevents Superman from further absorbing radiation; and 3) just destroy the sun. All things perfectly within his capacity to do.

Someone mentioned Quasar. He's an iffy. One time, he fought Surfer head-on, but he was doing it by secretly leeching Surfer's own power without him knowing it. Maybe he could do the same to Superman. Then again, Quasar still lost the fight.

Ion
Firestorm
Captain Atom (he has control over radiation, right?)
particularly smart GL-type character

I can see a GL using a forcefield to refract the yellow sunlight, mess with its wavelength and make it red sun radiation. Any energy manipulator who could survive in the sun's core could possibly win.

Draining superman isnt going to work, when he can absorb energy from all around him faster then he can be drained.

Its similar to when Photon tried to drain Sentry, and could not, sentry drained solar energy from every molecule of existence; which was infinite.

Originally posted by His Airness
Could anyone who can destroy/absorb/manipulate the sun win?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Draining superman isnt going to work, when he can absorb energy from all around him faster then he can be drained.

Its similar to when Photon tried to drain Sentry, and could not, sentry drained solar energy from every molecule of existence; which was infinite.

Even given your baseless assumption, I still wouldn't agree with you since Surfer also has the ability to create a field which blocks the absorption of radiation. That's how he stopped the Hulk on one occasion.

Originally posted by His Airness
Could anyone who can destroy/absorb/manipulate the sun win?

Probably not. Superman still has his own reserves of energy.

With the sun gone he'll still be in an amped state for a while at least.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Probably not. Superman still has his own reserves of energy.

With the sun gone he'll still be in an amped state for a while at least.

Couldn't someone with the ability to absorb and redirect energy have Superman return to normal lv's?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Who says Surfer couldn't drain it faster than Superman could absorb it? Your baseless assumptions? K. If you think Photon is Surfer's equal in energy manipulation, you need to read some more comics.

Even given your baseless assumption, I still wouldn't agree with you since Surfer also has the ability to create a field which blocks the absorption of radiation. That's how he stopped the Hulk on one occasion.

Baseless assumptions? The feats I mentioned for superman happened on panel.

Your the one assuming SS can drain superman faster, when superman has shown he can counter it easily.

Your saying SS is going to prevent Superman from absorbing energy by placing a field around him?

What is that field made of? Cosmic energy, which is exactly what superman has shown to absorb.

Anyway I doubt that would work, as I have said before, superman has shown to be able to absorb a myriad of things from just the energy from the space around him.

Originally posted by His Airness
Couldn't someone with the ability to absorb and redirect energy have Superman return to normal lv's?

People have tried but Superman just "punches through his weakness".

It should work for a win but the person would need it on a high level and they would have to be able to react very rapidly to drain him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Absorbing a sentient and highly powerful cosmic entity that resists and fights back is different than absorbing a neutral energy source that doesn't fight back.

Tell it to Quasar,

who succeeded where Silver Surfer failed:

And yea,

the "sentient and highly powerful cosmic entity"

was STILL "resisting and fighting back"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Surfer has absorbed suns before, heralds like Nova have instantly and easily completely snuffed out suns as well. It's in the respect thread and unfortunately, there are no issue numbers.

In what issues?

Respect threads can be misleading, if a plot device was involved in a Feat,

one would never know unless they read the whole story.

Or even worse, a complete misinterpretation of the event.

eg. (Dr Strange stalemating the IG)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This isn't wikipedia.

dontgetit

Is Atum sub - skyfather?

Dark Pheonix can kill superman inside the sun's core, she will eat him and the star

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Dark Pheonix can kill superman inside the sun's core, she will eat him and the star

Dark phoenix is stronger then Imperiex?

Have you seen a sun dipped superman who was only in the sun for seconds?

Originally posted by UniOmni
I'm not saying Thanos wins here.

I was just disputing the Kazaar incident, and laughing at you for trying to pass the SquirrelGirl incident as anything but comedy for comedies sake.

And Thanos has always beaten Drax down. This one showing was the outlier, and not the norm.

But the fact that the comic specifically reiterated that Drax is the silver Bullet to Thanos, doesn't make it as bad.

And if you wanna go down this road about cloning, doesn't that mean a Bataxe>> DD, since he was made by repeat cloning, and in S/B Batman and Amazons were taking out numerous clones(which are supposed to grow stronger from the base material)??

A Thanos clone isn't Thanos.

Ummm...no.

If you want to go the S/B route...those were animates...not clones and even then they were stated to be imperfect.

Thanos clone, was a CLONE...and barring retcon, was originally Thanos. The DD "clones" weren't even close to the real thing...no retcon needed.

Once again my friend...you are showing your willingness to accept anything Marvel automatically, and nitpicking at anything DC.

And the squirrel girl things was funny... it was apparently Marvels way to tell you not to take the titan so seriously. He's overrated beyond believe as are many characters.