Originally posted by carver9
In your dream on the first and really in your dreams on the second. Read a comic with these people in it, then come back and vote.
I feel that I am quite safe in the assumption that I have read many multitudes of comics more than you. Likely, many magnitudes of comics more.
You know, as crazy as this may sound, if Apoc fights smart and doesn't take the direct approach I can see him winning. He's shown he can teleport as well as encase people in force-bubbles and send them off. If he can single people out via teleportation and transporting people to places where he can take them down, he can winnow the team down for a victory. I don't see him taking a majority, but it is a possibility. When I think of these battle scenarios I don't always assume it's just going to be a direct slugfest. Some characters are smarter than that.
Apoc is one of them.
I'd give him 2-3.
Apocalypse gets absolutely no respect on this board. 😆 No matter what he does all people bring up is dodging a table thrown by Namor or getting ripped in half by Magneto (which contradicts other on panel occurences and feats of Apocalypse). He may have lows (like any villain), but he has some astounding highs as well, as well as showing an immense range of versatility (particularly considering the rules of the forum).
I'll never understand the spite he receives here on KMC.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Apocalypse gets absolutely no respect on this board. 😆 No matter what he does all people bring up is dodging a table thrown by Namor or getting ripped in half by Magneto (which contradicts other on panel occurences and feats of Apocalypse). He may have lows (like any villain), but he has some astounding highs as well, as well as showing an immense range of versatility (particularly considering the rules of the forum).I'll never understand the spite he receives here on KMC.
It's sad but true. ****ing HE gets props for everything, but does Poccy get credit for the stalemate? no. Credit for taking the firepower of Black Bolt, X-factor, inhumans and Xmen Blue team? no. It grinds my gears. 🙁
Yeah, me too TP, no doubt.
And actually, after giving this battle some thought while I was at work, I feel I'm selling Apocalypse short. If he can single out Sersi and take her out early he can simply grow to 100+ feat tall, turn his arm into a gigantic rail gun and blast the sh*t out of everyone left from orbit, then pick them off one at a time. With his powers, there's no need for a direct assault, and I can say in very good conscience that Apocalypse could defeat any of the people he's facing one on one and he has the ability to pick each person on the team off and single them out away from the group.
Teleport, pwn, repeat on next opponent. 👆
I can see him beating this team 5-6/10 using divide and conquer tactics. Direct assault on the group collectively would be his downfall.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's sad but true. ****ing HE gets props for everything, but does Poccy get credit for the stalemate? no. Credit for taking the firepower of Black Bolt, X-factor, inhumans and Xmen Blue team? no. It grinds my gears. 🙁
Dude...you really gotta stop calling him "Poccy"
Originally posted by TricksterPriestNah dude, that doesn't ruin your case... this ruins all past, future, present, and all cases you have ever brought up for that instance...
That really hurts my case......... nosweat And ok, I'll stop calling him that.
Also, if Apoc did take the scream, then that means that X-Factor (especially Cyclops, since he was closer than Apoc), and the other teams took the scream as well. Even the Inhumans, and if you think Black Bolt is that careless to scream when his family is there... well, that's just not right.
It looked like he was breathing at him, or a beam, but he certainly couldn't have screamed.
Here's your mercy:
You have been branned.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI was just joking around with that one, I just was reading over the Cable respect thread, looking for scans of Storm getting crushed, and found that (actually forgot that one).
Two things wrong with your arguement. Apoc was half dead when Stryfe was kicking him around. I've read that arc.2nd, BB can direct his scream. And it wouldn't hurt Apoc in any case, molecular control.
Oh... so why doesn't BB do it, EVER, when his family is around?
Do you also have scans or anything of BB controlling his scream, that accurately (it was a thin little thing, come on, it doesn't work like that)?
Because, I remember him letting out a whisper, and the other side of the planet feeling it... why didn't he just scream at the air?
Or, when he has to use a machine to direct all of his scream at a Watcher-powered-Doom?
Plus, Apocalypse was powered up, during that little fiasco (if you read the scans).
Molecular control doesn't help, when he's getting his whole body smashed, and his molecules ripped apart.
