Apocalypse vs Hercules, the Vision, Wonder man, Sersi, She hulk, Hulk and Mrs Marvel

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dude, You're still taking that arguement? 😬 Black Bolt cannot beat Apocalypse.

Smurf and others have vouched for BB being able to control it, and I'm going to go check his respect thread.

And if you want images of Storm being crushed, Apoc has some on page 5 of his respect thread. 😈 and page 1.

Especially since that instance was Apoc powered up, and Cyclops had smashed him.

I don't care what they say... really (if you haven't noticed). He is not controlling it enough, to have Cyclops a foot away from his face, and Cyke is virtually unaffected.
Also, I want proof, not Smurf.
You get proof, of him controlling it, it might, might change my mind.
You get proof of someone standing a foot away from his mouth, when he's screaming, and I'll certainly change my mind.
As of right now, he wasn't screaming, and it wasn't normal Apoc.

Black Bolt>>>>>>>>>>>>etc, Cyke.

You want to change my mind... prove to me, that it wasn't pis, prove to me, it was a scream.
Because as of right now, it was bullshit, considering BB's destructive force from a whisper, was enough to damage the other side of a planet.

Do I really to need to bring out scans, to go against both?

I'll look after, although, I already have Cyke smashing her ass out of the sky, KOing her instantly.

Controlling his voice to send a small pulse into Gladiator's head.
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/9764/vsglads9ak.jpg

A whisper send Maximus into a wall.
http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silentwar002011vz7.jpg

Whispers a single word that only hits Hulk.
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg

controls his voice so that only the Hulk is taken out by it.
http://img175.exs.cx/img175/525/hulk33gf.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3176/hulk40cw.jpg
http://img142.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=cd624_banner6.jpg

Team wins. Also Sersi's powers were ****ed up when her and Dane were in the past.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Controlling his voice to send a small pulse into Gladiator's head.
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/9764/vsglads9ak.jpg

A whisper send Maximus into a wall.
http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silentwar002011vz7.jpg

Whispers a single word that only hits Hulk.
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg

controls his voice so that only the Hulk is taken out by it.
http://img175.exs.cx/img175/525/hulk33gf.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3176/hulk40cw.jpg
http://img142.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=cd624_banner6.jpg

He blew not only the guy away, but was destroying the windows as well... Also, he didn't even talk there, that was from his antenna.

His face, was right in front of Hulk's, and he still destroyed a big piece of land...

He controlled his voice, so that it was more directed at Hulk, and yet, he still destroyed buildings, was affecting his teammates, and himself...

😐

None of those were whispers, and yet, all of them, caused more damage, than his supposed scream that he landed on Apoc.

As a matter of fact, all of these scans go against him screaming at Apoc.

And... bed.

Didnt BB already owned Apoc once?

Natch, all the team needs is a wood table and hes done for.

Scream? I thought it was made clear that Apocalypse withstood a whisper...

Originally posted by olympian
Didnt BB already owned Apoc once?

In an alternative reality...

APOC ftw....easy

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dude, You're still taking that arguement? 😬 Black Bolt cannot beat Apocalypse.

Smurf and others have vouched for BB being able to control it, and I'm going to go check his respect thread.

And if you want images of Storm being crushed, Apoc has some on page 5 of his respect thread. 😈 and page 1.

If Black Bolt cannot defeat Apocalypse, how are this team supposed to do it? If the comics were right, and he is in fact stronger than the Hulk then I don't see how these guys would defeat him.

Originally posted by llagrok
If Black Bolt cannot defeat Apocalypse, how are this team supposed to do it? If the comics were right, and he is in fact stronger than the Hulk then I don't see how these guys would defeat him.

He isn't stronger than an enraged SavageHulk.

BlackBolt wasn't exactly screaming his head off in that scene either.

Apocalypse can augment his strength, so one can't really determine how strong he is or can become.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Apocalypse was powered up

Which I find odd, since the whole point of him bringing the X-Factor to the moon was to use them to power himself up. If he was being powered up, then I don't see why he would need the X-Factor.

Seems to me more like the machinery was keeping him alive or stabilising his already own energies.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Cyclops had smashed him.

Cyclops's optic beam was powered up through Jean and Cable. Compare his optic blast in the scan he destroys Apocalyse to the other scans you posted. It's far, far greater than normally.

*Nods to Evil_Ash*

Apocalypse goes down, real hard.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
*Nods to Evil_Ash*

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Apocalypse goes down, real hard.

✅

Ash, why are you are hindering in this? 2nd, BB's scream affects things on a molecular level. Apoc has molecular control. hence, the scream does not work on Apoc. 3rd, Apocalypse was trying to do what he did in the twelve saga, except this time he was at full power as opposed to using a substitute body in the twelve saga.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ash, why are you are hindering in this? 2nd, BB's scream affects things on a molecular level. Apoc has molecular control. hence, the scream does not work on Apoc. 3rd, Apocalypse was trying to do what he did in the twelve saga, except this time he was at full power as opposed to using a substitute body in the twelve saga.

Personally, I'm a little opposed to the whole substitute body thing. What do you think?

So am I. It's total BS. But unfortunately, marvel's shit writing is holding Apoc back. ❌ Hence, the use of the term, 'Classic Apocalypse' or Apoc in his original body.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So am I. It's total BS. But unfortunately, marvel's shit writing is holding Apoc back. ❌ Hence, the use of the term, 'Classic Apocalypse' or Apoc in his original body.

I'm also wondering about Apocalypse's skin. Can it be cut by other materials then Adamantium and possible Cable's Psmitar?

Given his molecular control, the answer should be no. As for the Psimitar, I'd say no, but I'm not entirely sure how it works as a weapon.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Which I find odd, since the whole point of him bringing the X-Factor to the moon was to use them to power himself up. If he was being powered up, then I don't see why he would need the X-Factor.

Seems to me more like the machinery was keeping him alive or stabilising his already own energies.

I fail to see him doing the same thing, under normal circumstances (without the things coming out of him of course).

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Cyclops's optic beam was powered up through Jean and Cable. Compare his optic blast in the scan he destroys Apocalyse to the other scans you posted. It's far, far greater than normally.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
And yet, it still isn't above Black Bolt's scream.

Most certainly. 😕

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Most certainly. 😕

I was using it in the same post, that Black Bolt's scream didn't do anything, and yet Cyclops smashed him (and also rubbing in that Cyclops had indeed, smashed him).

It was something Trickster kept ignoring.