Karate Kid vs Captain America

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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All BL says is he split Bruces cowl... there is no mention of an owning, or even a hint that one was on the way.

What makes you think it was Bruce who said "We need to find out who he is"? There were at least three other people in the room who weren't Batman, and he was already pretty clear on the fact that he thought it was Val.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Isnt Spectre supposed to be an abstract? Hwo did that happen unless the Spectre allowed it?

Originally posted by Skeets
It's Batman.You can't touch Spectre physically,he's a ghost.
The way I see it is that Batman kicked Crispus Allen not the Spectre,but that doesn't make much sense either as Allen's a ghost too...ermmnone

Shit not even Superman can touch him,but Bruce can..haermm

Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, he had to allow it. He's only physical at all when he wishes to be. Notice how no one in the entire series can see him at all unless he wants them to.

Ah there you go.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
ok alfheim, you've been very helpful, you've convinced me that kk could not break cap's shield, which in my eyes gives cap a chance at this. my guess it would break down to who ever makes the first mistake, or whoever gets tired first.

Whoa, whats going on here??? Your not supposed to agree with me your supposed to in despite of all the evidence call me a douche bag and a fanboy!!!

Sorry I need to sit down I cant take this...he thinks ive been helpful

Yo.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Where I got the idea from? try batman's books...if I did not read it there I would not be getting those ideas. Ofcourse the voice command is just me speculating which I might add is not so far off.

ahhh, so then U cant actually say 1 way or the other correct? fine, I can work with speculation, as long as its stated to be such, but I still wanna know just wat good a vocal commanded belt would do for a person whos not able to speak to activate it.......

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well that is where I completely disagree with you...He got knock out by BL even if that blast did not knock kk out do you really think he would be able to put a good defense or offense against batman?

wat has getting blasted by BL have to do w/KKs concentration??

and yes, I think KK, having been blasted by FAR WORSE (and remaining conscious) teaming w/the LSH, has a good chance of still holding a def-posture if he not simply ktfo'd and Bats comes in for the win.

of course his chances drop no question.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yea there isn't much for me to say here then....except placing that belt on his shoulders was not a good move. And I am willing to bet that belt kk put on his shoulder would have lead to batman winning if the fight continued without any interruption.

personally, if it HAD been then I think Bats would likely have used it b4 BL even woke up, since he was still on the losing end of a fight I dont see him prolonging any beating if he could set the trap off and end it......unless he didnt think that 200k charge would be enuff to knock KK out. 😉 😆

Tazer

Originally posted by Alfheim

Sorry I need to sit down I cant take this...he thinks ive been helpful

You were.

And now you're acting like a douche.

Originally posted by batdude123
Is it garbage because you can't rebut against it, or because you're just too damn lazy?

Except he DID get his clothes tattered... nice try though.

No because it's laughable garbage. You're comparing Karate Kid giving Batman a hernia, splittling his mask in two, putting a noticable kick into his chest and blowing holes through his cape to Bats tattering his clothes and giving him a few knicks and bruises and saying they came out equals while writing off the fact that Karate Kid was damn near mocking him at the end (and that's ignoring the backtracking and defensive smileys).

Trash.

Btw nice ignoring the point (being how can someone with normal human stats deflect blows from someone as strong and, most notably, skilled as Bats without get his clothes tattered).

Originally posted by Tazer
ahhh, so then U cant actually say 1 way or the other correct? fine, I can work with speculation, as long as its stated to be such, but I still wanna know just wat good a vocal commanded belt would do for a person whos not able to speak to activate it.......

Of course I did say the voice command thing was just me speculating but there isn't much for you to say about batman activating the belt though a switch in his gloves. I read this in a nightwing book where batman is telling nightwing how he has upgraded stuff in the batcave.
So yeah kk lost the minute he put the belt on his shoulders.

Batman does not have to be unconscious for the belt to activate from what I understand the belt also activates if batman is unable to defend himself. I know it is very vague, we could all interpret that to mean allot of different things.

Originally posted by Tazer
wat has getting blasted by BL have to do w/KKs concentration??

and yes, I think KK, having been blasted by FAR WORSE (and remaining conscious) teaming w/the LSH, has a good chance of still holding a def-posture if he not simply ktfo'd and Bats comes in for the win.

of course his chances drop no question.

Well this is basically it batman winning though a plot device. And had the fight continued that belt on kk shoulders would have been that plot device.

Originally posted by Tazer
personally, if it HAD been then I think Bats would likely have used it b4 BL even woke up, since he was still on the losing end of a fight I dont see him prolonging any beating if he could set the trap off and end it......unless he didnt think that 200k charge would be enuff to knock KK out. wink laughing

Well personally, I think he wanted to see how kk was compared to him since as Clark listed kk as a class 15 fighter and batman as a class 12. Now if batman had activated the belt before BL woke up he would never know now would he. 😉 🙂 At least now he knows that this kk kid gots some mad moves.

Yo.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Of course I did say the voice command thing was just me speculating but there isn't much for you to say about batman activating the belt though a switch in his gloves. I read this in a nightwing book where batman is telling nightwing how he has upgraded stuff in the batcave.
So yeah kk lost the minute he put the belt on his shoulders.

hey, Im not saying he couldnt have done wat U claim equip-wise, but a vocal cmd wouldnt help him if he were unconscious now would it? and while I dont doubt that Bats made such a statement, it matters little since we saw *none of it* represented in this fight.

so yea the belt is, and was, a non-factor for this fight.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman does not have to be unconscious for the belt to activate from what I understand the belt also activates if batman is unable to defend himself. I know it is very vague, we could all interpret that to mean allot of different things.

proof? got a direct quote or issue number so it can be verified beyond "what you understand"??

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well this is basically it batman winning though a plot device. And had the fight continued that belt on kk shoulders would have been that plot device.

but....Bats DIDNT WIN thru plot device. technically, Bats didnt win at all. the only thing Bats did was remain standing while his opponent fell to the floor due to outside interferrence......and he was still conscious even then.

but even assuming we hold back Jeff from rescuing Bats from that ass-whupping being handed to him U'd still have to show that KK couldnt handle 200k volts.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well personally, I think he wanted to see how kk was compared to him since as Clark listed kk as a class 15 fighter and batman as a class 12. Now if batman had activated the belt before BL woke up he would never know now would he. 😉 🙂 At least now he knows that this kk kid gots some mad moves.

I can agree w/that, but I remain unconvinced the belt would be an issue.

Tazer

CA would kick Kartate kid's butt.jm

Batman didn't beat Karate Kid, Captain America won't beat Karate Kid.
Batman merely held his own for a handful of moves, which is impressive as hell as it is. Karate Kid was quickly taking the advantage after Bruce's initial assault, that much is evident.

Originally posted by Soljer

And now you're acting like a douche.

There you go, back to normal. Just couldnt help yourself.

Originally posted by Alfheim
There you go, back to normal. Just couldnt help yourself.

Just call 'em as I see 'em.

Originally posted by Soljer
Just call 'em as I see 'em.

You're blind mate.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You're blind mate.

Damn, if a blind man can see how much of a douche you are...

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ah there you go.

Whoa, whats going on here??? Your not supposed to agree with me your supposed to in despite of all the evidence call me a douche bag and a fanboy!!!

Sorry I need to sit down I cant take this...he thinks ive been helpful

i don't understand? any person of reasonable intellect, a base ability of deduction and half a wit could see that you've made... oh wait i see... FANBOYS!!! well after dealing with them all day, who can blame you?

and yes i do still call everyone a fanboy, can't help it, it's in my sig and everything

Originally posted by Alfheim
There you go, back to normal. Just couldnt help yourself.

hehehehe

Originally posted by Soljer
Damn, if a blind man can see how much of a douche you are...

THEN HE MUST SMELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry i felt it needed a better punch line.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
No because it's laughable garbage. You're comparing Karate Kid giving Batman a hernia, splittling his mask in two, putting a noticable kick into his chest and blowing holes through his cape to Bats tattering his clothes and giving him a few knicks and bruises and saying they came out equals while writing off the fact that Karate Kid was damn near mocking him at the end (and that's ignoring the backtracking and defensive smileys).

I still want you to explain to me how tearing a few articles of clothing means anything to the fight. I'll answer that for you: it doesn't mean anything, and it's worthless evidence to suggest superiority. You're welcome...

Simply telling Bruce "I gave you a hernia" does not prove shit, nor does it prove a mockery of Bruce's fighting skills. That's reaching if ever saw it. It's hilarious how you keep hanging on to this meaningless fact when it doesn't support your cause whatsoever.

The only substantial thing Karate Kid did was give Batman a hernia.

And still, throughout this entire time, you've ignored what I've been saying to you. I kept on saying they were fighting on equal grounds, not that the fight was a stalemate. After awhile of fighting, neither were significantly hurt and neither were on the brink of being KO'd. They each had their fare amount of blows landed throughout their encounter. You don't have to win a fight in order to be able to fight on equal grounds with another person.

In the end, Karate Kid was slightly better off than Bruce was, however that's not a good indication of how the tide of the battle went. Val may have gained the advantage towards the end, but that doesn't mean the battle wasn't on equal grounds.

Even after all of that, I still feel like I have to remind you that I don't think Batman is as good of a fighter as Karate Kid.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Btw nice ignoring the point (being how can someone with normal human stats deflect blows from someone as strong and, most notably, skilled as Bats without get his clothes tattered).

I'm not ignoring the point. Karate Kid's clothes were tattered, so this so called "point" you're trying to make is moot.

it's been a week, you lost, let it go.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
it's been a week, you lost, let it go.

It's been a busy weekend.

And I haven't lost shit, buddy. You just want to take the lazy way out. I'm fine with that. An admission of defeat from you.