Karate Kid vs Captain America

Started by Joey Stacks12 pages

No, this is taking the lazy way out

Originally posted by batdude123

Simply telling Bruce "I gave you a hernia" does not prove shit,

The only substantial thing Karate Kid did was give Batman a hernia.

More backtracking

Do yourself a favor

forget this topic happened.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
No, this is taking the lazy way out

More backtracking

Do yourself a favor

forget this topic happened.

Apparently your comprehending skills are that of a three year old. 😂

The simple act of telling Bruce "I gave you a hernia" (which was, as you incorrectly called it: "mocking"😉 doesn't prove he was "mocking" him or his fighting style. He was only narrating his actions.

Dishing out a hernia is substantial, but the narration of the fight? Hardly...

Is that easy enough for you to understand? 🙂

He was mocking him because he said

I took your belt, you switched your stance to your left leg and that pain you feel on your right, oh yeah I just gave you a hernia

If you were in a fight and someone blurted that out to you, how would you feel?

btw the quote was

"Simply telling Bruce 'I gave you a hernia' does not prove shit, nor does it prove a mockery of Bruce's fighting skills. "

Sorry I don't speak batdude.

Oh and I like how you've finally come to grips with a hernia being a noticeable injury, instead of continuing the laughable rant about how it "means jack shit"

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
He was mocking him because he said

I took your belt, you switched your stance to your left leg and that pain you feel on your right, oh yeah I just gave you a hernia

If you were in a fight and someone blurted that out to you, how would you feel?

Telling Bruce exactly what he did to him hardly counts as "mockery." It's like what Bruce said to him after he blocked his chop.

Mockery would be if Val said something along the lines of "your pathetic fighting skills make me laugh."

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
btw the quote was

"Simply telling Bruce 'I gave you a hernia' does not prove shit, [b]nor does it prove a mockery of Bruce's fighting skills. "

Sorry I don't speak batdude. [/B]

Why did you highlight "nor?" What... you've never heard of that word before?

That's hardly "speaking batdude." It's called "speaking English."

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Oh and I like how you've finally come to grips with a hernia being a noticeable injury, instead of continuing the laughable rant about how it "means jack shit"

I never said that KK giving Bruce a hernia means jack shit. However, Bruce didn't even seem like he was in pain. At best, he was annoyed by it.

And before you post again, I advise you to get over yourself and comprehend this section of my post.

"And still, throughout this entire time, you've ignored what I've been saying to you. I kept on saying they were fighting on equal grounds, not that the fight was a stalemate. After awhile of fighting, neither were significantly hurt and neither were on the brink of being KO'd. They each had their fare amount of blows landed throughout their encounter. You don't have to win a fight in order to be able to fight on equal grounds with another person.

In the end, Karate Kid was slightly better off than Bruce was, however that's not a good indication of how the tide of the battle went. Val may have gained the advantage towards the end, but that doesn't mean the battle wasn't on equal grounds.

Even after all of that, I still feel like I have to remind you that I don't think Batman is as good of a fighter as Karate Kid."

1.) There are more ways to mock someone then to resort to sophomoric levels, including telling someone like Bruce why he's not in his league.

2.) Conjunction linking two seperate thoughts (as highlighted by the comma). If you wanted it be handled the way you implied (which I'm sure is just you covering yourself) you shouldn't have bother to included ",nor" and likely would have worded it different.

3.)

Originally posted by batdude123

And Batman received a supposed hernia which didn't even seem painful enough to grab his attention.

Not exactly "jack shit" but more along the lines of who cares it didn't seem painful.

And before you post again, I advise you to get over yourself and comprehend this section of my post.

The point is they weren't equal in the first place and it's laughable to consider otherwise. Karate Kid ripped up Bats armor, removed his belt (with ease), gave him a hernia and chided him mid battle while escaping with minor bruises and tattered clothing. Not my definition of equal grounds.

Karate Kid definitely had the upper hand during the fight. He had enough of an upper hand to force Batman to use strategy instead of trying to outduel him with skill.

Batman's helmet was split open. And it was a helmet, not a simple mask as Black Lightning says. Batman recieved a hernia. His chest plate was torn open. And his belt was stripped from him forcefully. Anyone who thinks that taking Batman's belt in a straightup fistfight does not matter and ought to be dismissed is a complete jackass. He has all his weapons in the damn thing.

If you read the intercut narration of Red Arrow and Mr. Terrific's lines you'll see that the author was analogizing that Batman was planning that fight out the entire time. He was taking the punches and the punishment to manuever Karate Kid into a vulnerable position. If he was the better fighter, he wouldn't have needed to cheat.

But cheating to win is still winning. It is certainly a respectable feat. I think before this fight, a thread like Batman v. Karate Kid would have gotten laughs and anybody who would have said that Batman could win through strategy, if not skill, would have been flamed.

As for Cap vs Karate Kid? Cap has not fought a lot of people that outclassed him in pure skill. In fact, I can't think of anybody. He's been outclassed in strength, speed, agility and firepower... but those he can deal with. Pure skill? I think Cap would be taken by surprise and lose a fair majority. Cap doesn't resort to underhanded strategems to win.

Karate Kid 7/10 at least.

Karate Kid is pure PIS, but his skills are still supreme.
Cap stands no chance, besides a good hit with the shield.

Karate Kid 9/10

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
1.) There are more ways to mock someone then to resort to sophomoric levels, including telling someone like Bruce why he's not in his league.

Of course, however, telling Bruce he gave him a hernia is hardly something I'd consider "mocking."

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
2.) Conjunction linking two seperate thoughts (as highlighted by the comma). If you wanted it be handled the way you implied (which I'm sure is just you covering yourself) you shouldn't have bother to included ",nor" and likely would have worded it different.

So you're obsessing over a comma when the subject matter was legible enough to understand the point? How minor league...

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Not exactly "jack shit" but more along the lines of who cares it didn't seem painful.

I'm simply telling it like it was. If there was any expression of pain on Bruce's face, I'd really like for you to show me.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
And before you post again, I advise you to get over yourself and comprehend this section of my post.

The point is they weren't equal in the first place and it's laughable to consider otherwise. Karate Kid ripped up Bats armor, removed his belt (with ease), gave him a hernia and chided him mid battle while escaping with minor bruises and tattered clothing. Not my definition of equal grounds.

Well, this is certainly nothing you haven't brought up before and I'm not about to keep repeating myself either. Honestly, this circular BS is going nowhere. So...

I'll just say the semantics of the fight differ in our opinions.

Oh, and to OneDumbG0, you really think I'm a jackass? I can't believe this is coming from the ass clown who thinks Ganthet is more powerful than Spectre.

Lol at that. 😆

I say KK for the win. too much for Cap to overcome.

Countdown #50 shows pretty much the whole KK vs. Batman fight in case anyone was wondering. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=92159514&blogID=263499908

Karate kid almost loss to batman...and all batman did is punch him in the face.
cap punches too...except harder and faster.

cap win

batman and Karate Kid was even in skill, but Batman won on strenght.

cap is stronger and more skilled than batman and has a shield. karate kid goes down HARD, 9.5/10, due to the possibility of him being lucky

Cap > Batman > Karate Kid

Originally posted by Deathstroke
Countdown #50 shows pretty much the whole KK vs. Batman fight in case anyone was wondering. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=92159514&blogID=263499908

That's MUCH better.

Bats can only get one hit while KK parries every move with a slight of his hand.

And it clearly shows that Batman had to get KK in a position for Black Lightening to fry him and cheat.

draco, did you even read my statement?

Batman and KK was portryed around evenly in skill, but BATMAN HAD THE EXTRA SKILL TO MANIPULATE KARATE KIDS POSITION!

And Cap is better than Batman. Therefore, Cap wins this.

Nothing you say is worth paying attention to. Go the Karate Kid Respect Thread. KK is better than Cap in every way...except patriotism.

And Pre-Crisis feats are valid because Karate Kid is from an Earth where all the Pre-Crisis LoSH events happened.

Originally posted by proudamerican
Batman and KK was portryed around evenly in skill, but BATMAN HAD THE EXTRA SKILL TO MANIPULATE KARATE KIDS POSITION!

And Cap is better than Batman. Therefore, Cap wins this.

Even in skill? Are you blind? Open palm block to every single move Batman made. Bats only managed to get one hit in. AND KK took his damn belt.

He had to resort to cheating by having Black Lightening take him out.

Bats was beaten so badly that he actually THANKED BL for saving his ass.

And I won't even deal with your Cap is better than Bats comment...

KK can start chainreactions and such, but Cap is better at punching and snapping nerves. And has a shield. Cap wins

Originally posted by proudamerican
KK can start chainreactions and such, but Cap is better at punching and snapping nerves. And has a shield. Cap wins

"Chain Reactions" What the f*ck are you talking about? "Snapping nerves"?

Jesus, children like you who haven't the slightest clue about decent verbiage shouldn't be allowed to use the Internet.