Originally posted by Longinusmuch respect. thank god its other people on here besides 80 year old dc fanboys who still have wet dreams for supes.
Jesus, and people say Sentry is over-rated/hyped. People like Superman and Orion make me sick, bio field and impassiable force field that you can't get through, developing invisiblity and intagibility by vibrating molecules, weapons that can kill gods. Supes and his allies are becoming sickening these days. I mean honestly how do you all love these characters that are damn near unbeatable and develope new abilities every damn issue. Supes is beating Despero, a guy who beat Supes ass and the JLA in the past on multiple occassions. Without all that bs Orion comes with, I give the victory to the Avengers.
Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Actually, he's right.
Surfer, Terrax, Firelord, Stardust, Air-Walker, Morg, Nova, Alpha Ray Bill, Plasma, Ardina, Dominas, Starglow, Fallen One, Dark Angle, Destroyer, Red Shift, Aunt May, Rom, Dazzler, Uncle Ben, Johnny Storm (although brief), and even Thor (brief) are heralds.Actually, Superman isn't a herald anymore either, so you may need to read some newer comics...
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's not a respect thread thing. And Bran, the point I was making, is that DC is often more powerful. and yes, Orion can solo the list. almost everyone here agrees with that.If the DC Circe can't matter manip Orion, Marvel Sersi has no chance. and the AF can one-shot anyone here. Hell, he could go full blast and probably kill most of them, if not one-shotting the planet.
Orion can solo the list under who's pen?
Not even Simonson, his best writer would have him do that.
Simonson is to Orion, what Loeb was to Superman.
The only way Orion could solo this list, is if we take all his highend and disregard their highend.
Laughable, really.
And why does what goes for DC Circe, automatically extend to Marvels?
You don't even try to hide it, huh?
Originally posted by Galan007
Please tell me what any of the other characters in this thread can do in order to beat Orion /w/ AF. 😬
Withstand it, like others have??
And to the remark about nobody being able to survive a slugfest with Orion..........lmao
He did do well against Darkseid, true.
But he's also referred to Kalibak as his physical equal, and that guys not above anyone on this list.
He's been hurt by less than uber means, even under simonson.
He's also been peerish to Superman, and doesn't walk over top tiers like you imply.
This overrating of characters is hella irritating, especially since it's not the characters you're debating, but the powersets.
And picking and choosing showings willy nilly.
I'd wager that the Hulk that clapped away the dark cosmos would do fine against the Astroforce.
Or the Hercules that along with Thor, closed a dimensional portal with strength alone would suffice in a brawl.
Or the Wonderman that survived the explosion of the Nega Bomb(which annihilated a Galaxy) at ground zero, along with Vision would do well against those nonexistent under Orions own control galaxy busting AF shots.
Or the Sentry who fought Genis in a fight that destroyed actual worlds(one being an alternate Hyperions), rather than the Supermen fight that merely alluded to them having the power to destroy worlds, but not doing so.
Imagine, all those fodder earths up to be destroyed, and DC still didn't print him doing so.
The team has the power to own Orion here.
You just don't wanna accept their showings.
/ Thread.
Originally posted by UniOmni
New Gods are immune to Martian TP.I've seen nothing that says their immune to tp entirely.
And Lol at Orion soloing this list.
Not happening, at all.
And WWH owned Trickster like i've wanted too, but held off due to fear of the banning stick.
I can't stand people who go by respect threads to get an idea of how powerful a character is.
Not ALL new gods are totally immune, but Orion is AND with his helmet (which also can be used to block mental attacks) AND his mother box (which also can block mental probes), he's immune to mental attacks. Simple as that.
Orion is a league above everyone in this Avengers line up except Sentry. He'd run through them all. He might lose to Sentry, I don't know. No one does, really.
Originally posted by Galan007
😆This statement had me rolling...
Especially after reading everything else in your post, which seemed to ONLY focus on Orion's lower showings.... 🙄
Which you didn't do to the entire opposing team, to justify Orions victory in your mind?
Right............... 🙄
You named him fighting Darkseid as his high end, but if you really knew Orion, from his Kirby days, Kalibak has been his physical equal.
And let Orion have his af for his high end.
The high end of the opposing team lets them take it in stride.
But you probably didn't bring what everyone brought to the table to mind in your post, huh?
Team wins.
Originally posted by UniOmniPlease repost the instance where I said ANYTHING like that.... 🙄
You named him fighting Darkseid as his high end, but if you really knew Orion, from his Kirby days, Kalibak has been his physical equal.
Get your shit together before you try blaming me for things, (especially things I didn't even say)... 😉
Orion ftw.