Orion vs. Avengers

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Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by UniOmni
If you actually read my posts
This is as far as I read...... Just because you said that. doped

D-Block Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Adding Thor helps, but it's still Orion's battle to lose. Except now it's not a horrible curbstomp. It's not that DC is over marvel, it's that certain TIERS in DC are over marvel alot of the time. One of those things, is the speed difference. Another is power. 3rd is energies. Some things, like the AF or the OE, simply have no counterpart in Marvel or any way to stop them short of abstract or skyfather level power.

you put say, Orion against a few heralds, or against Thanos, and then you'll have a fight.

The problem is the tiers are inherently uneven alot. Hence, you have to handicap the DC guys (like taking away the higher speed) or higher up in power. Once you hit skyfather and up, the tiers are around the same level.

Street level, about the same. Meta, same thing. Herald, this is where DC gets a bit of an edge. Marvel has guys that can compete, but you have to go higher up than you would normally think. Example: Wonder Man vs. Superman. Bad match. Wonder Man would get curbstomped. Similar powers, but the degree is vastly difference. Hyperion or Sentry= better fight. Though Supes has an edge due to feats.

In terms of power, Orion is high herald, over Superman. Possibly Thanos level.

The next avengers team match, will be more even. This one was just to prove a point. 😉

You can't Add Thor that wouldn't even be fair it's not fair with Sentry. Sentry or Thor one on one will give him a good fight and take an even amount of victories.

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

D-Block, shut up.

Orion would have to fight Thanos or someone on that range to meet his match.

Thor need not apply.

Priest Senior Member

Originally posted by UniOmni
D-Block, shut up.

Orion would have to fight Thanos or someone on that range to meet his match.

Thor need not apply.


**** that, he'll have to fight Odin.

Board Walker Senior Member
Originally posted by Priest
**** that, he'll have to fight Odin.

You crazy? Full power, he would have to fight Multi-Eternity

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Exagerate much? 🙄 Thanos is closer to the level needed, but Fallen one or Stardust would hang better than this crowd.

Priest Senior Member

Originally posted by Board Walker
You crazy? Full power, he would have to fight Multi-Eternity

shocklaugh

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Who do you think I am, Rutog and 2damnloud? 😆

K3VIL Neutral Force

Re: Orion vs. Avengers

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Seems people need to learn to respect DC.

Orion

vs.

Avengers:

Sentry
Hercules
Wonderman
Hulk
Sersi
Ms. Marvel
Vision
Extremis IM


Vision, Extremis IM and Ms. Marvel are toast, New Gods Tech plus superhuman strength, speed, durability, reflexes and fighting skills, plus magnetic and energy abilities, too much things to deal with for some mid/low level beings like them.WM, Hercules, Hulk and Sersi will be enough to take Orion out if the 3 heavy hitters will cooperate while Sersi will use her ranged assaults and matter manipulation ability to keep him busy, after all WM, Herc and Hulk all have enough strength, durability and reflexes to be a threat to Orion, but they will have to keep him to the ground level to have a real chance.Sentry from his showings is nothing impressive and I consider him a pushover which Marvel shouldn't have pull out.

Longinus Senior Member

how is Sentry a pushover, he hasn't lost a fight yet.....

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Longinus
how is Sentry a pushover, he hasn't lost a fight yet.....
It was kinda cheap, but Iron Man did take down Sentry.

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by Juntai
It was kinda cheap, but Iron Man did take down Sentry.

Meh, I don't think CLOCing Sentry can really count. 😬.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Soljer
Meh, I don't think CLOCing Sentry can really count. 😬.
Motherbox can do it. It can even come up with the idea to do it.

golem370 Senior Member

Why do you think Marvel made Hulk calm when around Sentry or has that changed?

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by Juntai
Motherbox can do it. It can even come up with the idea to do it.

I realize. I wasn't saying it wasn't an option.

Just saying that I don't think a plot device win over Sentry should really downplay him any.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Soljer
I realize. I wasn't saying it wasn't an option.

Just saying that I don't think a plot device win over Sentry should really downplay him any.

I didn't downplay him at all.

The guy said he never lost a fight.

I brought up an example of him clearly losing.
I even mentioned it being "kinda cheap."

However, Orion can repeat the feat.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Juntai
I didn't downplay him at all.

The guy said he never lost a fight.

I brought up an example of him clearly losing.
I even mentioned it being "kinda cheap."

However, Orion can repeat the feat.

Fair enough. 🙂.

CaptainStoic Avenger

It wouldn't take this entire team to beat Orion. People should stop hyping him up to be on Thanos' level.

Orion is no Sky Father. Gog, Sphinx (Full powered), Odin, Zeus, Atum, Thanos, Hela, and many others would disregard his presence (In no particular order). Orion is about as powerful as Thor.

If Darkseid has a problem with his son it's no wonder, Orion has his genes, but this does not mean that Darkseid would lose to Thor or someone on his level.

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Who do you think I am, Rutog and 2damnloud? 😆
Yes.

Acrosurge Lumine Infinitus

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Who do you think I am, Rutog and 2damnloud? 😆
Um... I'm with Bran.

Avengers take this. Orion can bring some significant power to bear, but he isn't going to be able to take down Sentry and Hulk together, with the rest of the Avengers running serious interference. He just doesn't perform on that level, that I've seen.