The Thought Police (new hate crimes law)...

Started by FeceMan46 pages

BULLSHITZORZ?

Reported.

You've been trolling for the last 30 or so pages.

No I haven't I have been responding to their statements and I have tried to start up new debates in the meantime.

MR Intellectual, also lacks punctuation.

Are you just going to troll now?

Originally posted by Starhawk
Are you just going to troll now?

Just looking for something to do, until this evidence rears its head. I'll leave it at that for now.

LOL Why do I doubt that?

Who just got reported?jm

What I'm assuming Yip-Yap is squawking about: there are two major sources of U.S. crime statistics used, the Uniform Crime Report, which now encompasses the National Incident-Based Reporting System iirc, compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Crime Victimization Survey collected largely by the Bureau of the Census and published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Both the latter and the F.B.I. are agencies under the Department of Justice.

The UCR publishes statistics based on reporting from law enforcement authorities, the NCVS has a survey-based methodology canvassing a representative sample of approx. 75,000 people biannually - which allows for a statistical estimation of unreported crime. Discrepancy between the two is mainly due to methodology.

The UCR puts hate crime incidents in 2005 at about 7,000-8,000, based on reports from law enforcement agencies. I'm unable to currently access any more recent NCVS data on hate crimes, but a report on the not very up to date BJS site:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/hcrvp.pdf
gives the BJS statistics from 2,000-2003, putting the figure at approx. 200,000 per annum, with a per 1000 figure of 0.8.

Unless the hate crime rate has shot up 11,250% in the past 3 years it's not 90 per 1000 population.

I also eagerly await the scanning of said publication that states hate crime in the U.S. as 90 per 1000 population per annum, which would amount to 27 million cases of hate crime per year.

I am just going off the report, your acting like it's MY report. I'm not the one who compiled it.

Haha, he never supplied those scans. 😊

Hasn't YET.

If you fabricated it, then it is your report. 313

From Statistics Canada, the General Social Survey 1999 figures for hate crime:
http://www.statcan.ca/cgi-bin/downpub/listpub.cgi?catno=85-551-XIE1999000 Click pdf, ref: pp27
Approximately 200,000 cases, excluding vandalisms as the BJS report excluded vandalisms in it's per 1,000 population figure. This report gives a per 1,000 population figure of 9, per annum

More recent figures are only available for a fee. But unless they've shot up 300% in the last 6 years, it's not 30 per 1000.

To summarize according to official statistics:
Country || Hate crimes absolute || Hate crimes per 1000 pop
U.S.A. || ~200,000 || 0.8
Canada || ~200,000 || 9

I didn't fabricate it. Perhaps they tale into account types of crimes the other reports don't, as I said I will scan them and you can figure it out.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

U.S.A. || ~200,000 || 0.8
Canada || ~200,000 || 9

interesting...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If you fabricated it, then it is your report. 313

From Statistics Canada, the General Social Survey 1999 figures for hate crime:
http://www.statcan.ca/cgi-bin/downpub/listpub.cgi?catno=85-551-XIE1999000 Click pdf, ref: pp27
Approximately 200,000 cases, excluding vandalisms as the BJS report excluded vandalisms in it's per 1,000 population figure. This report gives a per 1,000 population figure of 9, per annum

More recent figures are only available for a fee. But unless they've shot up 300% in the last 6 years, it's not 30 per 1000.

To summarize according to official statistics:
Country || Hate crimes absolute || Hate crimes per 1000 pop
U.S.A. || ~200,000 || 0.8
Canada || ~200,000 || 9

Why does that shock me?

Originally posted by inimalist
interesting...
Originally posted by chithappens
Why does that shock me?
Surprised me too. Which is why I provided the source material in case I had misinterpreted it, which I don't deny is a possibility. Read and interpret as you will.

Well I will read it in full by tommorow afternoon. Thank you for the source. I will offer my thoughts once I finish

Hate crimes hardly even exist, much less enough of them to create a law. It's just more bullshit by stupid minorities trying to get special treatment.

I mean, how many white people do you know who go around beating up black people? Now, what about the opposite? Exactly.

It's like how black leaders talk about the Klan being so dangerous nowadays when the KKK hasn't done shit in 40 years. Hate Laws are for those perpetual victims who think the world owes them. I swear I'll never understand why people embrace being victims.