Jaiden preety much throughout the game survives Boba Fett, then at the end he can kill both about 15 Jedi and Sith (If you choose the dark side that is) and then after that he can take on a body of Tavian that was invaded with Marka Ragnos's spirit. The spirit also used a Sith Sword. After all that, Jaiden also kills Kyle Katern. Yet he couldn't kill that dang Mutant Rancor except by using the whole shield thing.
He doesn't kill Kyle, he actually is about to lose the duel, but takes Ragnos staff, and shoots the beam right in his face, then sends the roof down on him. But if you watch any part of the ending, you'll see that Kyle gets out of there and talks to Luke.
But the dark side ending is non-canon, so it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
The rancor would die of dehydration before he could even attempt to fathom catching Mace. Mace just finds a shatterpoint and takes him down.
C'mon dude...Mutant Rancors are almost completely resistant to lightsabers amd he eaten his way through many Dark Jedi's. Mace doesn't stand a chance.
The shatterpoint can show the weakspot of thsi type of diamond so that it can be destroyed by a mere tap. The diamond is also made out of the hardest material in the Star Wars Universe, or one of them.
So if the shatterpoint enabled Mace to destroy an item made out of the hardest material in the Galaxy, then the Rancor shouldn't prove to be a problem.
Originally posted by Janus X
@ Blax: Yes, but this is a Huge. Acid Spewing. Moving. Rancor.
Irrevlevent. Rancor moves slower then dirt. Now that it's been established that Mace CAN punch through it, especially with his Lightsaber, he just uses his insane speed to dodge it's attacks and drive his Lightsaber into wherever it's weakspot is.
Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
The shatterpoint can show the weakspot of thsi type of diamond so that it can be destroyed by a mere tap. The diamond is also made out of the hardest material in the Star Wars Universe, or one of them.So if the shatterpoint enabled Mace to destroy an item made out of the hardest material in the Galaxy, then the Rancor shouldn't prove to be a problem.
Eh, not that I care too much for this debate, but you're comparing different principals. The Corusca Diamond is a man (or alien I guess) made diamond that was created by people far from being infallible, and subject to making mistakes in the construction of the diamond. The Rancor is natural born life, not created by man, or alien. I'm not saying that the Rancor Skin can't possibly possess a weakness, but I don't think your example applies, especially when considering that the hardness of the material has no relation on whether a shatterpoint could be found of exploited.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Eh, not that I care too much for this debate, but you're comparing different principals. The Corusca Diamond is a man (or alien I guess) made diamond that was created by people far from being infallible, and subject to making mistakes in the construction of the diamond. The Rancor is natural born life, not created by man, or alien. I'm not saying that the Rancor Skin can't possibly possess a weakness, but I don't think your example applies, especially when considering that the hardness of the material has no relation on whether a shatterpoint could be found of exploited.
That's ridiculous. Shatterpoint is something that shows weaknesses in materials, creatures, people, situations, etc. To assume that a mutant rancor is the perfect creature with no weakspots just because it is living (like other things Mace has used Shatterpoint on, like Sidious and Jango) is... dumb.
That's ridiculous. Shatterpoint is something that shows weaknesses in materials, creatures, people, situations, etc. To assume that a mutant rancor is the perfect creature with no weakspots
Yeah, how about reading what I said again: 'I'm not saying that the Rancor Skin can't possibly possess a weakness, but I don't think your example applies.' I'm not saying that it can't possibly have a weakness, I just don't agree with his reasoning.
just because it is living is... dumb.
Something naturally made would be much more likely to not possess such weaknesses than artificially made products, that's obvious.
(like other things Mace has used Shatterpoint on, like Sidious and Jango)
Disregarding the fact that your entire argument is a Strawman argument, these examples are invalid, given that the shatterpoints Mace spotted in your examples were to do with flaws in the way they were fighting, not natural weaknesses on their skin or in their bone structure, which is with what I was comparing the Diamond and the Mutant Rancor.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Eh, not that I care too much for this debate, but you're comparing different principals. The Corusca Diamond is a man (or alien I guess) made diamond that was created by people far from being infallible, and subject to making mistakes in the construction of the diamond. The Rancor is natural born life, not created by man, or alien. I'm not saying that the Rancor Skin can't possibly possess a weakness, but I don't think your example applies, especially when considering that the hardness of the material has no relation on whether a shatterpoint could be found of exploited.
You don't care for my thread? 🙁
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Yeah, how about reading what I said again: 'I'm not saying that the Rancor Skin can't possibly possess a weakness, but I don't think your example applies.' I'm not saying that it can't possibly have a weakness, I just don't agree with his reasoning.
Something naturally made would be much more likely to not possess such weaknesses than artificially made products, that's obvious.
Disregarding the fact that your entire argument is a Strawman argument, these examples are invalid, given that the shatterpoints Mace spotted in your examples were to do with flaws in the way they were fighting, not natural weaknesses on their skin or in their bone structure, which is with what I was comparing the Diamond and the Mutant Rancor.
Or:
Originally posted by jollyjim311
He lifts it up with the force (seeing as how he could stop several hundred tons of rocks in an avalanche), and then drops it, and it collapses under the impact of the fall because it's so big.