Wolverine

Originally posted by capt it up
very true. Hell his healign factor was not even shown untill like his 20th apearence or more if not mistaken. He originally was not even said to be a mutant.

true though I find it funny people think the hand of god stuff is new since it actaully one of the oldest known things about wolverine.

Wolverine first appearance was The Incredible Hulk 180 in 1974, we discovered he had a healing factor in The Uncanny X-Men 142 in 1981. Before that the only thing even resembling any mention of a healing factor was a one liner in UXM 116 (maybe) where he said something like "Don't worry, I heal fast". Wolverine was present in comics for seven years before we found out what his mutant power was... 🙁

Originally posted by capt it up
yet you talk crap about wolverine being recarnation of hand of god..........when that came out in the 80's and has not been ment in any current wolverine run...........yup you really do talk out your ass.

I never said I liked ALL of the stuff from back then 😐

I don't even understand why you are trying to defend such crap writing. I mean considering its only bastardizing his character, I would think you would be against it.

I know if Marvel tried to do something like this to one of my favorite characters, I would be VERY pissed.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine first appearance was The Incredible Hulk 180 in 1974, we discovered he had a healing factor in The Uncanny X-Men 142 in 1981. Before that the only thing even resembling any mention of a healing factor was a one liner in UXM 116 (maybe) where he said something like "Don't worry, I heal fast". Wolverine was present in comics for seven years before we found out what his mutant power was... 🙁

You mean ONE of his mutant powers right? 😕

He was always shown to have animal senses and reflexes

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine first appearance was The Incredible Hulk 180 in 1974, we discovered he had a healing factor in The Uncanny X-Men 142 in 1981. Before that the only thing even resembling any mention of a healing factor was a one liner in UXM 116 (maybe) where he said something like "Don't worry, I heal fast". Wolverine was present in comics for seven years before we found out what his mutant power was... 🙁

Originally posted by Grimm22
I never said I liked ALL of the stuff from back then 😐

I don't even understand why you are trying to defend such crap writing. I mean considering its only bastardizing his character, I would think you would be against it.

I know if Marvel tried to do something like this to one of my favorite characters, I would be VERY pissed.

I not even talking about the new stuff when you comment at my post I was talking about an event that took place in the 80's. I even told you that and still you thought it was a new thing. Dude you don't read wolverine you never did and you just full of BS.

I not defending the new event im talking about a past event.

Originally posted by Grimm22
You mean ONE of his mutant powers right? 😕

He was always shown to have animal senses and reflexes

I might be wrong but don't think the hyper senses were brought up until the Brood... or maybe even Mutant Massacrer storys. All we knew about Wolverine was that he was a mutant (even though it was suggest that he really wasn't in UXM 98) and he had a adamantium skeleton... it was never really mentioned what it was that made him a mutant. He had some crazy durability... but that was chalked up to having and adamatium skeleton.

grimm22 you just prove your bias against wolverine every time you post in here and it annoying since you have no diea what you talking about

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think the hyper senses were brought up until the Brood... or maybe even Mutant Massacrer storys. All we knew about Wolverine was that he was a mutant (even though it was suggest that he really wasn't in UXM 98) and he had a adamantium skeleton... it was never really mentioned what it was that made him a mutant. He had some crazy durability... but that was chalked up to having and adamatium skeleton.

What's your opinion on the direction they're taking Wolverine...to the super healing powered immortal he is today?

Originally posted by capt it up
dude your being an idiot.

I not even talking about the new stuff when you comment at my post I was talking about an event that took place in the 80's. I even told you that and still you thought it was a new thing. Dude you don't read wolverine you never did and you just full of BS.

I not defending the new event im talking about a past event.

And like I said, I think its crap writing.

If that makes me an "idiot" then so be it, but thats the way I feel.

Oh and "I not just full of BS"

Originally posted by masterbruce
What's your opinion on the direction they're taking Wolverine...to the super healing powered immortal he is today?

As far as I'm concerned Wolverine has been immortal since 1991 in Barry Windsor-Smith classic Weapon X story in the pages of MCP... and his current healing factor isn't that far out line with how it was portrayed in that story.

Originally posted by Grimm22
And like I said, I think its crap writing.

If that makes me an "idiot" then so be it, but thats the way I feel.

Oh and "I not just full of BS"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
As far as I'm concerned Wolverine has been immortal since 1991 in Barry Windsor-Smith classic Weapon X story in the pages of MCP... and his current healing factor isn't that far out line with how it was portrayed in that story.

example every one whined about Logan being immortal yet he been immortal since 91 yet they all act like Logan all of a sudden being over powered it rediculous.

It funny how many people whine about wolverine and act like he been so up graded yet have no problem with ice man, spiderman and so on.

My favorit when they whine about logans healing factor yet they think DP healing factor is fine and awosome

Originally posted by capt it up
same people make to much of a deal about wolverine. Haft the things being whine about are like 20 years old yet they think there new.

example every one whined about Logan being immortal yet he been immortal since 91 yet they all act like Logan all of a sudden being over powered it rediculous.

It funny how many people whine about wolverine and act like he been so up graded yet have no problem with ice man, spiderman and so on.

My favorit when they whine about logans healing factor yet they think DP healing factor is fine and awosome

1. Spiderman has not been upgraded as much. Iceman has potential, but he still isn't uberpowerful.

2. Did DP ever take a nuke directly and heal almost instantly? Yeah I thought not.

Originally posted by masterbruce
1. Spiderman has not been upgraded as much. Iceman has potential, but he still isn't uberpowerful.

2. Did DP ever take a nuke directly and heal almost instantly? Yeah I thought not.

your an idiot..........

first spiderman started at 10 tons.......then went to 15.......now he 20 tons

spiderman agility and reflex as were up graded. His spidersense has been up graded twice if not 3 times. he now has organic webbing oh and he can see in the dark......not to mention the whole stinger thing and healing factor increase.....but ya spiderman has no were near wolverines up grades...... 🙄

Iceman not Ubber powerful are you a morron he can surve as mist........he does not even ened a body.......he has full control of matter manipulation.......your an idiot if you think wolverine has been upgrade more then Iceman.

Has DP taken a dirrect hit by a nuke? Nope put he got eaten then thrown up and healed instantly......not to mention healing froma hand instantly....amoung others.....

Logan did not heal instantly from the nuke attack.

It funny that you have this vendetta against Logan and hold this standered for him ,but no one else. it also funny when you let your bias gett in the way of good judgement. The comments you made above made you sound like a complete and utter morron.

Originally posted by capt it up

It funny that you have this vendetta against Logan and hold this standered for him ,but no one else. it also funny when you let your bias gett in the way of good judgement. The comments you made above made you sound like a complete and utter morron.

LOL...so you think I have a vendetta against Logan? Why would I have a vendetta against a comic book character? 😕

Originally posted by capt it up
your an idiot..........

first spiderman started at 10 tons.......then went to 15.......now he 20 tons

spiderman agility and reflex as were up graded. His spidersense has been up graded twice if not 3 times. he now has organic webbing oh and he can see in the dark......not to mention the whole stinger thing and healing factor increase.....but ya spiderman has no were near wolverines up grades...... 🙄

Iceman not Ubber powerful are you a morron he can surve as mist........he does not even ened a body.......he has full control of matter manipulation.......your an idiot if you think wolverine has been upgrade more then Iceman.

Has DP taken a dirrect hit by a nuke? Nope put he got eaten then thrown up and healed instantly......not to mention healing froma hand instantly....amoung others.....

Logan did not heal instantly from the nuke attack.

It funny that you have this vendetta against Logan and hold this standered for him ,but no one else. it also funny when you let your bias gett in the way of good judgement. The comments you made above made you sound like a complete and utter morron.

Furthermore most people complain about Spiderman's upgrades, even his fans. 😬

Originally posted by masterbruce
LOL...so you think I have a vendetta against Logan? Why would I have a vendetta against a comic book character? 😕

Originally posted by capt it up
becuase your always against him............and you act like he so over powered to the point were you make retarded comments like wolverine more powerful and has more upgrades then iceman...........spiderman and has a better healing factor then deadpool...........

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
From what I've seen Masterbruce pretty much stupidly defended Wolverine, even so far as to use the Nuke thing last year quite often, saying that Logan couldn't be killed.

haha yeah good point...I did defend Logan alot

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman has went up in strength and other aspects slowly in his career, he hasn't done anything to remove the suspension of disblief from his character. They were all described and revolved around a specific arc. He didn't just "get them" from another writer. It makes sense for a character to grow throughout his career slowly. Like Colossus or anyone else. But to make a character who was once just normal, something absurd (for any character noone specific), is just annoying to the readers because they should work on character more than powers when it comes to a character, I'm sure you would agree.

Furthermore most people complain about Spiderman's upgrades, even his fans. 😬

ya becuase logans healing factor boost did not have to do with any story such as have his adamtium ripped out..........or having it ripped out again........and then been stated to have evolved further in his evolution track...........ya but he absurd.

im sorry,but logan has not been upgrade further then spiderman not even close and he had reasons for it just like spiderman.........