Wolverine

Originally posted by capt it up
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you do realize he beat tiger shark in his 20th issue.........

He beat Ba'al he one of his first issues.........

he also tied namor earlier in his carreer

not to mention he KO wendigo...........

He has not really changed in the sense of he he fights.

His upgrades aren't "as fast as everyone else". He didn't even start getting upgraded until the dissasembled arc. Other than that he was the most consistent around. It's just the truth my friend.

Originally posted by capt it up
not really spiderman gets them as fast as every one else..........

Bullshit

He's been at the same strength level till around the nineties , then he got another upgrade with that 'turn into a spider' crap and finally all this 'Other' bs.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But he wasn't beating Lobo and taking Nukes right away was he? He didn't beat Namor until much later either.

His upgrades aren't "as fast as everyone else". He didn't even start getting upgraded until the dissasembled arc. Other than that he was the most consistent around. It's just the truth my friend.

haven't guys like captain america and daredevil beaten namor before. Even Spiderman has beaten guys like thor, whats the big deal? 😬

Originally posted by jasonk3
haven't guys like captain america and daredevil beaten namor before. Even Spiderman has beaten guys like thor, whats the big deal? 😬

PIS

Originally posted by grey fox
PIS

😂 Exactly, I mean everyone else has their PIS moments, why make a big deal out of it?

*Panther putting Surfer in an armbar was not PIS*

😛

Originally posted by jasonk3
😂 Exactly, I mean everyone else has their PIS moments, why make a big deal out of it?

*Panther putting Surfer in an armbar was not PIS*

😛

Thats the 'COSMIC-ARMBAR' mister !

Originally posted by jasonk3
haven't guys like captain america and daredevil beaten namor before. Even Spiderman has beaten guys like thor, whats the big deal? 😬

Cap has never beaten Namor I dont think DD has either. If they did it wouldnt be from putting them in an armlock.

Originally posted by grey fox
Thats the 'COSMIC-ARMBAR' mister !

😆

Originally posted by Alfheim
Cap has never beaten Namor I dont think DD has either. If they did it wouldnt be from putting them in an armlock.

Yes, captain America has beaten Namor.

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max00129lsfx4.jpg

Deadpool beat Wolvie, didn't he?

Originally posted by jasonk3

Yes, captain America has beaten Namor.

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max00129lsfx4.jpg

Doesnt count in my book he was mindcontrolled. A clear thinking Namor is more dangerous and would most likley beat Cap.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Doesnt count in my book he was mindcontrolled. A clear thinking Namor is more dangerous and would most likley beat Cap.

I would've agreed with you if this was a mind-controlled street leveller, but we're talking about Namor here, there is no way cap should be able to knock him out.

I'll give you another example, wolverine has fought a mind-controlled colossus before, but he got his ass handed to as him as he should because colossus is way out of his league. There are some fights guys on Cap or Wolverine's level should not be winning at all, but some how hey manage to do so.

Originally posted by jasonk3
I would've agreed with you if this was a mind-controlled street leveller, but we're talking about Namor here, there is no way cap should be able to knock him out.

When Namor usually fights he is more accurate. This Namor was just going nuts throwing punches. Cap has people like that for breakfast all he does to is dodge his punches and wait for a vulnerable spot.

As you can see Namor had a disk on the back of his neck that made him vulnerable.

Well Cap has been knocking out people with vast superhuman strengths for hundreds of years.

Originally posted by jasonk3

I'll give you another example, wolverine has fought a mind-controlled colossus before, but he got his ass handed to as him as he should because colossus is way out of his league. There are some fights guys on Cap or Wolverine's level should not be winning at all, but some how hey manage to do so.

Well Wolverine has super sharp claws for starters.....

SvFL

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings.

Both Cap and Wolverine have been hurting people much stronger than them for ages, therefore according to the forum rules it allowed.

Originally posted by Alfheim
When Namor usually fights he is more accurate. This Namor was just going nuts throwing punches. Cap has people like that for breakfast all he does to is dodge his punches and wait for a vulnerable spot.

As you can see Namor had a disk on the back of his neck that made him vulnerable.

Well Cap has been knocking out people with vast superhuman strengths for hundreds of years.

http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=141ta.jpg

happened more than once ( and Namor is an just an example I'm using for opponents way out of his league)

Well Wolverine has super sharp claws for starters.....

SvFL

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, [B][U]and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings.

Both Cap and Wolverine have been hurting people much stronger than them for ages, therefore according to the forum rules it allowed.

Maybe so, but stomping guys like onslaught, namor, cutting or dodging Thanos with the IG is PIS.

Originally posted by jasonk3
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=141ta.jpg

happened more than once

No it hasnt. Namor gets up and kicks Caps ass.

Originally posted by jasonk3

( and Namor is an just an example I'm using for opponents way out of his league)

Yeah like 🙄

Originally posted by jasonk3

🤨 I said wolverine lost...

It was in response to this statement.

Originally posted by jasonk3
There are some fights guys on Cap or Wolverine's level should not be winning at all, but some how hey manage to do so.

Originally posted by jasonk3

Maybe so, but stomping guys like onslaught,

I agree.

Originally posted by jasonk3

namor,

Well I dunno Namor will win a good majority over Cap but I was thinking Cap could get one or two. Looking at some of Namors showings im starting to doubt it. Namor isnt just strong hes very fast and a skilled fighter.

Originally posted by jasonk3

cutting or dodging Thanos with the IG is PIS.

Im not even bothered with that because Thanos destroyed his shield and killed him fairly quickly. Thanos wasnt even trying that hard.

I have no problem with the Hand of God thing. Kind of made sense to me in a way. This Loeb storyline though? Don't like it. I started picking up Wolverine again just to get clarification on his history and was dissapointed.

In regards to his "upgrades", I don't mind characters evolving but when their level of consistency wans its tough. I don't blame the character though, just the different writers who want to portray the character in different ways. Some see him as a durable man and others as an unstoppable force. Of course we'll have variations, same is true for many other characters out there.

Personally I would have prefered an origin more closely to the one in Origins. His childhood is such a contrast to the person he becomes and I find it interesting.

And btw, I HATE some of the recent Spidey changes. The implication that he's mystical makes no sense whatsoever and don't even get me started on the stingers.

Originally posted by capt it up
when in uncanny x-men before he had his healing factor.............

Did you just say it does not work for his character? You the person who knows didly about wolverine.................just said it does not work for his character.........you have never even read the ****ing arch.........wow just wow.

BY the way it been part of his character pritty much from the get go.........so I gunna go on a limb here and says it does work for his character.

So apparently, you're opinion on the character is the only one that matters right? 🙄

Stop the presses marvel! All books with Wolverine in them now have to be approved by Capt it Up because he is the only one who can truly decide whether it fits his character or not

Originally posted by capt it up
thank you captain obvious........I don't jsut own hundreds of spiderman comics and been collecting them since I was 7...........

yes as did wolverines.............unless you forgott he a mutant........he evolves............

So what does that matter if ICE man is am omega? He sitll ahd more upgrades...........it also deos not change the fact masterbruce actaully tried to say wolverine more ubber..........when ICE MAN CAN TURN TO WATER VAPER.........

And have his powers not evolved?!? 🤨

Seriously, since his powers emerged (claws and healing factor) he's already had a secondary mutation (animal senses and abilities), so don't act like Wolverine hasn't gotten any upgrades

Originally posted by marvelprince
I have no problem with the Hand of God thing. Kind of made sense to me in a way.

I would have prefered an origin more closely to the one in Origins. His childhood is such a contrast to the person he becomes and I find it interesting.

I HATE some of the recent Spidey changes. The implication that he's mystical makes no sense whatsoever and don't even get me started on the stingers.

Wolverine deserves a strength boost. Maybe kick him up to a 10 tonner.

Originally posted by long pig
Wolverine deserves a strength boost. Maybe kick him up to a 10 tonner.

I'd say his healing factor needs a boost. 😖hifty: