Originally posted by bakerboy
First of all, dont insult. You dont need to do that, that is plain childish and we are talking only about movies.Second: burton reimagination was poor and unnessesary. Ok, penguin need some changes to transladate well to screen, but being a retarded freak with blood from his mouth isnt one of those changes at all. Michael Keaton being batman and the villains being the focus arent good changes at all.
If burton want to do a batman film, he doestn need to reaiminaginate those things, only do some changes. If not, go and do another movie like edward sissorhands or bettlejuice.
The only reason in batman are the villains? Batman is one of the heroes with the best gallery of villains, agree. But batman himself is a one of the most interesting heroes of all time. He shouldnt be a second fidler of the joker or the penguin and catwoman, and he is in those tim burton movies.
My problem arent the changes, my problems are what changes. And the changes made by burton were plain dumb and unnessesary. Good movies? maybe in your eyes, but those movies were only good visually and musically. The story and the scripts were terrible, the dialogue was corny, some of the acting was terrible except in some cases. They were bad films and poor adaptations.
exactly.well said.the scripts for ALL of the batman movies except the one and only true Batman movie-Batman Begins of course, were horrible and stupid with horrible acting in all of them.
please stop double posting. But Batman Begins was ok but they had some bad lines
"I swear to god"
"SWEAR TO ME!"
I rest my case. te first two movies had great acting and great dialogue and great actors. Number three is where it hit the fan. bad acting one some counts and shtty disaloge. but in numer four is where you should have stopped watching. Over acting HORRIBEL dialogue. bad actors Uma Thurman over acted the entire movie! but the first two were amazing
this all needs to be discussed on the WHY DID STEVE NOT DO THE LAST TWO BATMAN MOVIES thread..this thread is just to talk about the actors who played him-which as any true batman fan knows-Bale is the the best whoever played him.Hands down,no contest.With Val Kilmer coming in second.He was the best to have played the role till Bale came along.
Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
people who dot read carefully are funy. ive said it ultiple times, that this is for WHO SHOULD play him with nothin to do with previous peformances.although id like to discuds all the people in batman, not just him
your the one that started it all about the comparisons of the shitty pathetic Burton/Schumacher Batman movies against the one and only good batman movie Batman Begins by talking about Alfred who has nothing to do with the topic. 🙄 Bale is easily the best actor to have played the role so as long as Nolan is the director,thats a no brainer-keep having Bale play the role.
Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
please stop double posting. But Batman Begins was ok but they had some bad lines
"I swear to god"
"SWEAR TO ME!"I rest my case. te first two movies had great acting and great dialogue and great actors. Number three is where it hit the fan. bad acting one some counts and shtty disaloge. but in numer four is where you should have stopped watching. Over acting HORRIBEL dialogue. bad actors Uma Thurman over acted the entire movie! but the first two were amazing
The first two movies had the cheesiest lines in the world. Don't even try to ignore that blaring fact.
And Bale a bad Batman? He actually gave the part humanity, which is the main draw of Batman; he doesn't have superpowers. He is a man. He relies on tools much like we do.
Bale gave the part that added facet along with the fact he's easily a better actor than any (except maybe Clooney) of the other Batmans.
you guys hsoudl be politicians, you are saying the same thing over and over but saying nothing of importance.
I never said he was a bad Batman i said he was ok and since hes the really only young Batman, and wasnt bad I say i recognise him as mid 20's batman. PLUA i was merely responding to your things.
and hwo does "Better Bruce Wayne" make you think of comparisons? as better means to be improved or just greater than the previous or different one. as in BETTER than the others. take an english class and do us all a favor.
Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
you guys hsoudl be politicians, you are saying the same thing over and over but saying nothing of importance.I never said he was a bad Batman i said he was ok and since hes the really only young Batman, and wasnt bad I say i recognise him as mid 20's batman. PLUA i was merely responding to your things.
and hwo does "Better Bruce Wayne" make you think of comparisons? as better means to be improved or just greater than the previous or different one. as in BETTER than the others. take an english class and do us all a favor.
We never said you said he was bad. We are refuting the fact you call him average and consider Keaton better; and that's just bullshit.
Don't even try and use that cop out. You've been arguing for the past 4 pages over this subject.
It's hilarious that you tell ME to take an english calss when YOU have spelled words wrong many times.ha ha.I've gotten bored with you,your not worth my time anymore.Oh before I leave, since you wont go over to that other Batman thread to read what I posted there for you,I will say it again and post it here.Like Juntai tried to tell you and spell out for you over there,TIM BURTON was the one who ruined the Batman franchise from the very get go.The very idea of Batman rolling in with machine guns and grenades popping out of the tires made me cringe as well like it did him as well as it did with thousands of Batman fans.Those pathetic Burton Batman movies focused way too much attention on the villians with Batman as just a supporting character like we tried to spell it out for you over there.
Thats okay for a Batman TV show for an episode to have batman as just a supporting character to the villians,but NOT a movie,a movie is a special case.Burtons Batman was not only a disgrace to Batman fans because of the horrible casting choice of keaton as batman-keaton is a good actor and has been good in some movies such as Jack Frost,desperate measures and other movies of his as well,but he was horribly miscast in this movie as any true batman fan would know.
Burton disgraced Batmans character by having him look like a wuss getting the crap beat out of him by that Jokers goon in the end.especially since that goon had no special fighting skills at all. 😆 what a joke.and dont come back with that lame flimsy excuse that he was hurt because the batman from the comics has been far more seriously injured than that before and was able to beat up multiple villains at the same time.Burtons Batman had poor fighting skills.Thank god for Nolan because he showed Batmans true fighting skills how he could beat up multiple villians at one time just like in the comics.
Burton has made some good films before in the past such as Edward Scissorhands,Ed Wood and Nightmare Before Christmas,but Batman is NOT one of them.Burton needs to do his own stuff,when he makes his own material such as edward sciccorhands and nightmare before christmas,he makes good films once in a while,he needs to stay away from classics that are proven material such as planet of the apes,charlie and the chocolate factory AND Batman because he screws up classci movies like that and makes a mockery out of them EVERYTIME. 😠
Batman Begins is the ONLY good Batman movie made that exists.Batman Forever was okay but it doesnt touch Batman Begins.Batman Begins is the only Batman movie that should not be burned.Tim Burton should be shot for such a travesty of a great comicbook character and his horrible casting choice of michael keaton as batman. 😠
Originally posted by RocasAtollAnd Bale a bad Batman? .
you were saing? it looks as though your puttin words in my mouth. huh? ok anyways.
pfft i dont care about typing well in fron of you jackovs. so my opinion doesnt matter? you gusy are immature lol if my opinion isnt the same as yours "ITS WRONG!!"
EDIT: oh and also, coudl it be your afraid of change? if it is onyl the stuff that someone did before the bothers you when Burton does it? its probably you nto everyoen else. plus Tim Burton is great one of the greatest geniuses of all time. He has done nothing bad so far ever!
On the topic of the thread starter
Richard Burgi, with a little help in the hair area would have made the best batman/bruce wayne(played The Sentinel on tv)
Now it is my opinion that Bale was a bad bruce wayne and a decent
batman,he definetly did not fit the part ,i did not like Batman begins which is my right, he was so not bruce or batman but he is a good actor
which saved him,the script was bad ,but i like the supporting cast more than bale
Now it is only my opinion i am stating,but why all the hostility? cant we all have our view on the matter?
Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
you guys hsoudl be politicians, you are saying the same thing over and over but saying nothing of importance.I never said he was a bad Batman i said he was ok and since hes the really only young Batman, and wasnt bad I say i recognise him as mid 20's batman. PLUA i was merely responding to your things.
and hwo does "Better Bruce Wayne" make you think of comparisons? as better means to be improved or just greater than the previous or different one. as in BETTER than the others. take an english class and do us all a favor.
How is being a politician saying the same thing over and over again?THey do'nt do that.jm
Originally posted by starlock
On the topic of the thread starter
Richard Burgi, with a little help in the hair area would have made the best batman/bruce wayne(played The Sentinel on tv)Now it is my opinion that Bale was a bad bruce wayne and a decent
batman,he definetly did not fit the part ,i did not like Batman begins which is my right, he was so not bruce or batman but he is a good actor
which saved him,the script was bad ,but i like the supporting cast more than baleNow it is only my opinion i am stating,but why all the hostility? cant we all have our view on the matter?
See the way you stated your opinion and the way the thread starter did are like night and day.I already covered those details why your way off base here on Bale being a bad bruce wayne as others have so no need to go into that again.I would just be repeating myself.I could also go into detail as well on how the script was 10 times better than those pitiful Burton Batman movies but thats not what this thread is about and I would be repeating myself on that as well. See thats find that you dont agree with me and some of the others here on this thread about that.YOU stated your opinion in a polite and civilized way unlike the thread starter and that jamaican kid who both engaged in name calling with a few of us just for not agreeing with them.thats why I was hostile with them and why I am not being hostile with you or batdude because you both were at least civilized and mature in your posts.