Originally posted by The Great GalenNeither will Surfer. If Superman didnt have this weakness then maybe it would be different but he does.
Again, Sups will not be stationary during the fight...he will be moving lol. A amped supes who's powers have more then tripled is simply to much for SS. AS Supes 7/10.
The weakness isn't going to decide anything though, SS needs to first generate the red-sun energy but will he manifest in time before AS Supes rocks him with a "dimension shattering"punch. All the cards r stacked agains SS aside from a single sploit that needs prep...prep needs time which cant be afforded agaisnt someone as fast and as strong as AS Supes.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
The weakness isn't going to decide anything though, SS needs to first generate the red-sun energy but will he manifest in time before AS Supes rocks him with a "dimension shattering"punch. All the cards r stacked agains SS aside from a single sploit that needs prep...prep needs time which cant be afforded agaisnt someone as fast and as strong as AS Supes.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Why would Surfer do something he has to prep for...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/surfer3.jpg
I'm not exactly sure what this would prove with all star?
That SS is more powerful than WM? Didn't he later do the same thing back to SS anyway?
Originally posted by darthgoober
How is that relevant when the effect was immediate? Are we discussing whether or not Surfer's going to be able to tag Supes or how long it'll take to manipulate his solar energy?
"Immediate" is a relative term when referring to two ftl beings. So if wonder man is not ftl, then I dont see how it would be relevant to as superman unless he slowed himself down to wondermans level of speed. It's a great feat, but this will be a much more high speed battle than you think.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
"dimension shattering"punch.
There's been quite a few character that withstood AS superman attacks. Ie. Bizzaro, Doomsday, etc... And this without red solar weakness.. Surfer is not going to go down with just a few hits and lets be reall AS is not = to flash in speed department..
Originally posted by Roldz
It never happened.. Read the freakin issue..There's been quite a few character that withstood AS superman attacks. Ie. Bizzaro, Doomsday, etc... And this without red solar weakness.. Surfer is not going to go down with just a few hits and lets be reall AS is not = to flash in speed department..
great post.
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Originally posted by Sirius77
"Immediate" is a relative term when referring to two ftl beings. So if wonder man is not ftl, then I dont see how it would be relevant to as superman unless he slowed himself down to wondermans level of speed. It's a great feat, but this will be a much more high speed battle than you think.
Wonderman has done interstellar flight from one side of the solar system to the other in a short period of time. So he has done some faster then light things also.
Originally posted by Roldz
It never happened.. Read the freakin issue..There's been quite a few character that withstood AS superman attacks. Ie. Bizzaro, Doomsday, etc... And this without red solar weakness.. Surfer is not going to go down with just a few hits and lets be reall AS is not = to flash in speed department..
No but AS Supes>>>Normal Supes, and If i recall his power more then trippled in the AS series. Normal Supes is easily comparable to SS in terms of durability,strength and speed enough as it is....so aside from a small exploit with redsun radiation I dont see SS taking the majority here. AS Supes 7/10
Originally posted by darthgooberNice scan there.
Why would Surfer do something he has to prep for...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/surfer3.jpg
Originally posted by RoldzQFT.
It never happened.. Read the freakin issue..There's been quite a few character that withstood AS superman attacks. Ie. Bizzaro, Doomsday, etc... And this without red solar weakness.. Surfer is not going to go down with just a few hits and lets be reall AS is not = to flash in speed department..
Originally posted by The Great GalenSurfer has enough durability to destroy Supes with his power cosmic. Again its all about the weakness.
No but AS Supes>>>Normal Supes, and If i recall his power more then trippled in the AS series. Normal Supes is easily comparable to SS in terms of durability,strength and speed enough as it is....so aside from a small exploit with redsun radiation I dont see SS taking the majority here. AS Supes 7/10
Originally posted by The Great Galen
No but AS Supes>>>Normal Supes, and If i recall his power more then trippled in the AS series. Normal Supes is easily comparable to SS in terms of durability,strength and speed enough as it is....so aside from a small exploit with redsun radiation I dont see SS taking the majority here. AS Supes 7/10
Redsun radiation, he could also speed up AS cellular breakdown.. We now know he is not immune to biomolecular manipulation unlike normal supes which i think is a far worse weakness than kryptonite.. Surfer can exploit those weakness..
