Silver Surfer vs All Star Superman

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Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by llagrok
From looking at the amount ASS is pushing, it looks like he was already much, much stronger than regular Superman.
I wouldn't say that, necessarily. A/S is, for all intents and purposes, a sundipped Superman. I've seen a 'mainstream' sundipped Supes push Battleworld around like it was a ping pong ball - and Battleworld > the 200 quintillion tons A/S lifted with one arm, I'd wager.

Thing that sets A/S apart from damn near any version of Superman, is the extreme ease in which he accomplishes these amazing feats. That, and the fact that he is pretty much perma-sundipped, [ie. the solar radiation he absorbed isn't wearing off].

The Great Galen Restricted

Well aside from that, Ive seen SS have issues dealing with Thor on a constant basis. AS Supes is simply to powerful here, he takes it 7/10

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by Galan007
I wouldn't say that, necessarily. A/S is, for all intents and purposes, a sundipped Superman. I've seen a 'mainstream' sundipped Supes push Battleworld around like it was a ping pong ball - and Battleworld > the 200 quintillion tons A/S lifted with one arm, I'd wager.

Thing that sets A/S apart from damn near any version of Superman, is the extreme ease in which he accomplishes these amazing feats. That, and the fact that he is pretty much perma-sundipped, [ie. the solar radiation he absorbed isn't wearing off].

I thought the scientist was referring to Superman before the dip, when he said that his strength had tripled.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by llagrok
I thought the scientist was referring to Superman before the dip, when he said that his strength had tripled.
Nah, that was just after the dip.

llagrok Restricted
Originally posted by Galan007
Nah, that was just after the dip.

My bad then.

ultimatethor Senior Member

As long as SS does not get into a physical match then he can win. He just has too many powers

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Avlon
Not really as wonder man is as different from superman as spiderman is to Thor.

Then it's a good thing he used the same trick on the Vision just before that because it demonstrates the effect has quite a bit of range. Let's see, he can do it to the electrical signals in the Vision and he can do it to the ionic energy of Wonderman... I'm willing to bet that he can do it to the solar energy of Supes. Especially when you take Surfer's capacity for manipulating solar energy in other situations.

Avlon Godot Brew#107
Originally posted by darthgoober
Then it's a good thing he used the same trick on the Vision just before that because it demonstrates the effect has quite a bit of range. Let's see, he can do it to the electrical signals in the Vision and he can do it to the ionic energy of Wonderman... I'm willing to bet that he can do it to the solar energy of Supes. Especially when you take Surfer's capacity for manipulating solar energy.

I'm sure you thought of that long and hard.

You said it though, you willing to bet that it can be done because he did it to a robot and an ionic being. If I remember correctly, they got Surfer back with the same trick and were able to restrain him too. Any proof that it's done to this version of Superman?

You stated it here:

Originally posted by darthgoober That's kinda inaccurate. AS Supes is 3x more powerful than HE was at the beginning of the series, but there's nothing to suggest that he's 3x more powerful than "standard" Supes.

He's not the same Superman. He has more control over energy, and he hasn't been shown to have that weakness.

The Great Galen Restricted

Not to mention Supes won't be just waiting there untill SS tests to see if this works. Supes 7/10

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Not to mention Supes won't be just waiting there untill SS tests to see if this works. Supes 7/10
It will work and Surfers durability assures he could take his punches.

The Great Galen Restricted

Wasn't SS Ko'ed by being put underwater, and besides that its pretty much speculative if it would work agaisnt AS while we know a punch from AS supes would work agaisnt SS.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Avlon
I'm sure you thought of that long and hard.


Huh? I was away because I'm spending less time on the computer nowadays in favor of spending time with my son.

Originally posted by Avlon
You said it though, you willing to bet that it can be done because he did it to a robot and an ionic being. If I remember correctly, they got Surfer back with the same trick and were able to restrain him too. Any proof that it's done to this version of Superman?

Nope. But then again I don't think that specific trick had been done on any of those three before that either(I could be wrong about that though). And if anything, the fact that Tony was able to replicate the feat with tech and the help of the other Avengers just further demonstrates that the trick will work on pretty much any character with a lot of energy going through their body(like AS Supes).

Originally posted by Avlon
You stated it here:

He's not the same Superman. He has more control over energy, and he hasn't been shown to have that weakness.


What makes you think of it's a matter of it being an actual "weakness"? The Vision's never been explicitly stated a having a weakness to that effect and I doubt it's ever been done to him since then. It was done successfully to three characters who's only common trait was the large quantities of energy within their body.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Wasn't SS Ko'ed by being put underwater, and besides that its pretty much speculative if it would work agaisnt AS while we know a punch from AS supes would work agaisnt SS.
Yes but it wouldnt put him down whereas Surfer quickly exploits Superman's weaknesses.

The Great Galen Restricted

Hmm assuming it would even work, even then SS WILL BE reeling from the punch...hell the guy was rocked by the black panther.

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Wasn't SS Ko'ed by being put underwater, and besides that its pretty much speculative if it would work agaisnt AS while we know a punch from AS supes would work agaisnt SS.
Yeah. He casually pushed against the equivalent of 200 quintillion tons with one arm. His freakin' front door key weighs half a million tons! shocklaugh

Avlon Godot Brew#107
Originally posted by Badabing
Yeah. He casually pushed against the equivalent of 200 quintillion tons with one arm. His freakin' front door key weighs half a million tons! shocklaugh

He punched a planet back to a different dimension.

So much the planet actually feared him.

Superman yells "think quick" to SS and tosses his key at him. Surfer gets hit by the key and goes down for the loss! 😄

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Badabing
His freakin' front door key weighs half a million tons! shocklaugh
The simple act of A/S lifting that key is a class 100+++ feat in itself.

Originally posted by Avlon
He punched a planet back to a different dimension.

So much the planet actually feared him. 😄

He beat Solaris.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Galan007
The simple act of A/S lifting that key is a class 100+++ feat in itself.

He beat Solaris.

That too. Who commented and was surprised that Supes kept pulling out new powers.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Avlon
He punched a planet back to a different dimension.

So much the planet actually feared him.

Superman yells "think quick" to SS and tosses his key at him. Surfer gets hit by the key and goes down for the loss! 😄

Surfer could turn the key into anything he wanted to. Power cosmic for the win.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Avlon
He punched a planet back to a different dimension.

So much the planet actually feared him.

Superman yells "think quick" to SS and tosses his key at him. Surfer gets hit by the key and goes down for the loss! 😄


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