Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well considring that they are fringe characters they really dont, but its bordering on insanity to place them below or evn close to AS superman
In the physical department? Not really.
I doubt that ASS would beat the Surfer with a single punch, but two of his punches might do more damage than Tenebrous' huge fists.
Originally posted by llagrok
In the physical department? Not really.I doubt that ASS would beat the Surfer with a single punch, but two of his punches might do more damage than Tenebrous' huge fists.
I really doubt that. High level cosmic characters like tenebrous and Aegis are all able to channel their powers for into different aspects of themselves. They are all as strong as they need to be at any given time. Hence if they come after you physically your in big trouble. They dont need strength feats to prove their physical supeiority to below skyfather level characters
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Why not, Surfer has been KO'ed byu havinv his head pulled under water.
Considering this is a serious debate, i would appreciate if you would not undermine it by referencing nonsensical, PIS and unrelated events such as that( also that armbar trash). SS does not need to breathe and yet he is suffocated under water? Plainly stupid. Not to mention it is still irrelevant because, that in no way has anything to do with his resistance to blunt force.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
I really doubt that. High level cosmic characters like tenebrous and Aegis are all able to channel their powers for into different aspects of themselves. They are all as strong as they need to be at any given time. Hence if they come after you physically your in big trouble. They dont need strength feats to prove their physical supeiority to below skyfather level characters
Sure they do.
That's mainly speculation anyway and a failed attempt at passing something off as the board consensus.
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think anyone is saying that A/S punches would kill Surfer - just that they could most certainly incapacitate him.
I dont doubt that a few solid A/S punches would mess him up badly but the idea of him by knocked senseless by only one punch and being unable to retaliate
Originally posted by ultimatethorOne punch would certainly weaken Surfer, but it probably wouldn't KO him.
I dont doubt that a few solid A/S punches would mess him up badly but the idea of him by knocked senseless by only one punch and being unable to retaliate
Now 2, 3, 4, 5... consecutive punches - that's another story.
Originally posted by llagrok
Sure they do.That's mainly speculation anyway and a failed attempt at passing something off as the board consensus.
Sheesh, this speculation thing again? This can be handled simply, take the characters who have the best strength feats( most likely top tiers such as hulk, superman thor etc) and put them against high level cosmic characters. Would you actually say that jsut because the top tiers have the strength feats that they are stronger? Lets see,WW hulk and exitar?
Galactus and superman? For thor i'll evn come down to a skyfather like zeus. What do you think the genral consensus on who is stronger will be?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why? Thanos stunned him with one punch and then killed him in 3 punches. 😕 And AS Supes>>Thanos.
Are you talking about that cosmic fist incident? And really why do we have to use only one of the numerous fights between SS and thanos? There have been numerous fights between them in which ss was not evn koed after taking alot more than three punches.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Sheesh, this speculation thing again? This can be handled simply, take the characters who have the best strength feats( most likely top tiers such as hulk, superman thor etc) and put them against high level cosmic characters. Would you actually say that jsut because the top tiers have the strength feats that they are stronger? Lets see,WW hulk and exitar?
Galactus and superman? For thor i'll evn come down to a skyfather like zeus. What do you think the genral consensus on who is stronger will be?
You're purposely misunderstanding me.
ASS would possibly be able to inflict much more damage to Surfer by punching him, than say Galactus or Exitar.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Let's see, AS Supes pulled agaisnt the weight of qualtrillion of tons with a single arm effortlessly. The blunt force he could discharge (such as punch a planet into another dimension) as a result of this strength is gonna leave SS ruined. SS has been rocked by Thor for crying out loud.
Pulling quintillions of tonnes is not something beyond the scope of the regualr ultra strong characters like hulk or superman. When hulk held sakaar together he was essentially doing the same thing. The same goes for superman, wondwerwoman and mm who moved the earth. Also thor who lifted the midgard serpent. It is a great feat but certainly not something the regualr ultra strong characters cant manage
Originally posted by llagrok
You're purposely misunderstanding me.ASS would possibly be able to inflict much more damage to Surfer by punching him, than say Galactus or Exitar.
Okay then ill try to understand you better. It seems you agree that high level cosmics are indeed superior physically to top tiers( am i right?). If so then an all out punch/smash/other physical attack from these high level cosmics should actually do more damage than one from an extremely strong top tier. The problem is they hardly ever attack that way
Originally posted by llagrokSpeculation. Anyways its ridiculous to imagine these huge towering giants trying to connect punches.
In the physical department? Not really.I doubt that ASS would beat the Surfer with a single punch, but two of his punches might do more damage than Tenebrous' huge fists.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Okay then ill try to understand you better. It seems you agree that high level cosmics are indeed superior physically to top tiers( am i right?). If so then an all out punch/smash/other physical attack from these high level cosmics should actually do more damage than one from an extremely strong top tier. The problem is they hardly ever attack that way
They aren't physically superior, unless they purposely amplify themselves to reach that level. Tenebrous and Aegis' strength we can assume are proportionate to their size. That's probably a couple of thousand tons, assuming they're not amplifying themselves.
Until T&A prove that they're capable of more physically, we'll see.
Originally posted by llagrokYou are speculating. Again to draw someone Galactus size punching someone our size is too weird to even imagine.
They aren't physically superior, unless they purposely amplify themselves to reach that level. Tenebrous and Aegis' strength we can assume are proportionate to their size. That's probably a couple of thousand tons, assuming they're not amplifying themselves.Until T&A prove that they're capable of more physically, we'll see.