Alliance
Enforcer of the Republic
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know enough to say what Im saying, homes. If a disease hasn't been cured in 50, years what does that tell you?
It doesn't tell me anything. I ALREADY KNOW that we don't know how it works to the degree that we can stop it or way that we can think of how to stop it are too detrimental to the body or can't actually be administered.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Automotive engineering, on the other hand has improved immensly over the past 50 years; engines, handling and steering technology, crash durability, the advent of computerized vehicles in 1981, and so on.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Even if you did try tell me about automotive repairs, chances are extremely likely that I already know what youre trying to "educate" me on.
And the opposite would not be true, because you know shit about medicine, yet for some reason, fell you are qualified to judge it.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Thats my entire point in all of this: people should know their jobs.
Doctors do. You want doctors to be miracle workers.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ok, then I'll ask you, a member of the medical community, a question. Whats taking so goddamn long to cure another disease? Are they waiting for 2056? Are they going to try to make it a century until the next cure is invented?
See my earlier statement. We have come along way in understanding these diseases, but they are often so complex and so integrated into the body, we cant do anything about it. Take cancer for instance, every type of cancer is different. Something like 80% or all breast cancers can be treated now because we figures out how that one specific type of breast cancer works, then we figured out how to treat it. They're all different and its not the easiest to tell whats going on when you're dealing with living people of which everyone is different.
Other problems are more severe. For example, my friend works on fungal infections that can inhabit IVs. We know drugs that can fight the fungus, but its practically impossible to get them to solubilize so they can actually be delivered to treat the infections. A lot of her work could be used to help in Iraq, where an increasing number of soldiers are dying from fungal and bacterial infections when they have severe wounds.
Thats an advancement. If you're looking for something divine like a cure for cancer and AIDS, then you probably see about 5 major advances in medicine throughout history. If you actual READ whats going on, you know that its advancing at an incredible rate. The length of times it takes to solve these is not incompetence, scientists around the world are studying these problems. Its a testament to how difficult these problems are.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
And you see, I know my shit. People pay me to do a job, and I do it completely. Its not like the govt gives me obsene amounts of money annually, to squirt stuff in a testube only to come up empty handed every time.
Sorry, my work involves thinking. Actually, I've never used a testube in my research, so clearly you've been watching too much CSI. And, if problems could be solved by squirting things in testubes, medicine could be finished.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
like theres a need for a cure to AIDS or cancer.
You sit there and *****? Yet you do nothing. People dedicate their lives to doing this stuff. You know nothing about these diseases, therfore you have no idea how to judge progress or how long it actually should take to treat specific problems. You don't know how techniques change and you don't know how much work it takes to do so.
Basically, you're massively under-informed. And unless you have any real points, I'm done arguing this crap. i'm not going to waste my time arguing with ignorance.
Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
I'm a mechanic myself (To a degree) and I tell you now that fixing cars ain't easy. Don't be ignorant. Just because there is a blue-print doesn't mean that the steps involved aren't difficult. Mechanics and electrician work can be extremely daunting, especially if you Don't have the right tools.Besides, I'm sure more electricians are killed on the job yearly then Scientists 😉
Yeah, my point is, it ain't easy to fix it if you don't know how it works.
There's a defined limit to the pieces of a car. The human body doesn't have that.
Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Let it go, Quiero. Even though I half-agree with you, this whole argument is pointless. The only thing you're doing is pissing off Alliance more and more...Even though some of what you say has merit, you are basically insulting Alliance's career, which he has been busting his balls over for several years, I understand. So no matter who is actually "right" is irrelevent, this is going to develop into a flame war.
I've said that the teast was a **** up. It was a false positive. There are steps taken to insure that it is not. If those steps weren't taken, then we can talk about liability.
However, from what I know from this little blurb of an article, the doctors did nothing wrong. On top of that, even if they did do something wrong, the doctors and the hospitals are not liable for his purchases or hsi failure to pay his bills.
Medecine is run by doctors, who are people, who are expected to go throguh their carrers never making one mistake. Doctos are fallible. Science has its human/god given limits.