Who is the top 5 prep kings in comics?

Originally posted by Juntai
Brainiac and family would be the entire top five if we included them?

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Originally posted by Juntai
The Marvunapp.com site mentions the same Handbook detailing the events as Universe 4321, as I pointed out above.

You haven't really pointed out anything though friend.

There is NO Handbook where the End takes place in Reality 4321.

In fact,

the Official Marvel Handbooks clearly referenced the Eternity in the END as the Prime Eternity,

the same Eternity Genis & Entropy killed.

Originally posted by Juntai
As well as the site itself being what you consider official source, as seen in the link, and show scans of how the Handbook treats the site.

The site is Official,

but like I discovered,

Reality 4321 is in reference to AK, and no one else.

Originally posted by Juntai
The on panel doesn't seem to contradict nor support the handbook/marvunapp site.

On Panel it's completely contradicted.

Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos in another reality having similar experience doesn't seem valid enough, as iirc, there was a mention in one of the books around the time of the Infinity Gauntlet, of Thanos having done it in another universe as well as they formulated ideas on how to stop him.

If it's an Alternate Reality,

4321 Thanos would not be identical to 616.

If it had Diverged from 616, then the History of the characters would be the same.

But that isan't the case here is it?

I never saw a Watcher warning us about it,

like he does at the beginning with ALL Divergent Realities.

Originally posted by Juntai
Then Thanos referencing ultimate power in his solo series doesn't support nor deny it either, as 616 Universe had Thanos thinking he had the ultimate power a number of times as well. Considering himself God with the Gauntlet, and believing it was Gods power, as seen in the last few pages of Thanos Quest.

On Panel and in the Official Bio and even Marvel.com (updates)

it was the Prime Reality in the END series.

On Panel and in the Official Bio and even Marvel.com>>>>Marvunapp

Originally posted by Juntai
About 3 posts down, in this thread you identify the same website identifying the The End and it's events as an alternate universe, as an official source, and has been a site you like to refer to on more than one occasion. You even show how the Handbooks reference it in the link.

You're not doing anything wrong dude,

but you're mixing up the info and confusing yourself.

The link I provided concerning that Site, concerning the THOTI,

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart

does not mention 4321 anywhere.

4321 is restricted to AK and his Origins from issue #1.

Originally posted by Mr Master
For AK yes,

but not for the entire story.

Read the whole thing.

This is further proven in the actual HOTI and Celestial Order Bios they provide,

now the entire story revolves around the THOTI,

why wasn't it designated to Reality 4321?

In fact,

4321 is not even mentioned.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart

Or is it your idea that the Order decided to give AK the HOTI, and dimensional shifted him and his past to the 616 universe to do so?

While it doesn't say The Heart of the Infinite is in 4321 specifically, it also doesn't deny it. However, The End, as a result of the entry cited by that, in the comments, and the handbook as happening in the 4321 universe due to AK.

And you denied the mention it, while saying you had the source on-hand. Is the "Official Site" making stuff up now too, like the Wiki?

Repost - but it applies.

(I won't even bring out the tons of references made in the Thanos series

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Cosmic Cube?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Infinity Gauntlet?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time when he died and became Death's servant?

And don't tell me that perhaps an "Alternate Version" coincidentally happened to have the EXACT same experiences as Thanos 616.

As you know, that's why they are termed "Alternate" because they are different,

And had this "Reality 4321, Diverged from 616,

some indication On Panel or in the Bios would have let that be known.

Originally posted by Juntai
It doesn't say anything specifically about his origin happening in one place, and then the events happening in a different universe. Or maybe I'm not seeing what you are.

Or is it your idea that the Order decided to give AK the HOTI, and dimensional shifted him and his past to the 616 universe to do so?

Thanos gained THOTI ... LT joined champions across Reality ..

Thanos destroyed All that existed"

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)

"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)

Also, notice the reference made to Genis and Entropy destroying the same Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos gained THOTI ... LT joined champions across Reality ..

Thanos destroyed All that existed"

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)

"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)

Also, notice the reference made to Genis and Entropy destroying the same Eternity.

This is the nail in the coffin as they say:

This is from Marvel.com 2007

as official as marvunapp may be,

this is MORE Official.

Here we are given all the CANON appearances made by the Prime Eternity.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ4

(Eternity)

Notice there is no Korvac erasing Eternity in that Divergent Reality,

or Eternity appearing to Strange, Phoenix and Surfer in another What-if, or Eternity's appearances in other Divergent or Alternate Realities.

Only Official Canon appearances,

correct,

the END is one of them.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You're not doing anything wrong dude,

but you're mixing up the info and confusing yourself.

The link I provided concerning that Site, concerning the THOTI,

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart

does not mention 4321 anywhere.

4321 is restricted to AK and his Origins from issue #1.

Originally posted by Juntai
I think it's all very convoluted to be honest.

So you think Genis & Entropy destroyed Eternity 4321?

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is the nail in the coffin as they say:

This is from Marvel.com 2007

as official as marvunapp may be,

this is MORE Official.

Here we are given all the CANON appearances made by the Prime Eternity.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ4

(Eternity)

Notice there is no Korvac erasing Eternity in that Divergent Reality,

or Eternity appearing to Strange, Phoenix and Surfer in another What-if, or Eternity's appearances in other Divergent or Alternate Realities.

Only Official Canon appearances,

correct,

the END is one of them.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So you think Genis & Entropy destroyed Eternity 4321?

Originally posted by Juntai
It says significant issues the character Eternity has appeared in. Doesn't state spefically 616 Eternity, nor does it claim it as the only official appearances.

Originally posted by Juntai
is there evidence of the Celestial Order napping him from 4321, and then placing him, his past and newfound power into a different universe?

Actually there is. (but no mention of 4321 though)

I never knew that other Reality actually had a #, until just now, thanx to you. 🙂

Also AK decided to return to Earth on his own.

My Comics are on DVDs right now,

you'll have to give me some time, to upload and proceed.

Oh, I see, you're speaking of Eternity's bio with Captain Marvel and The End. Interesting.

In no order.

Mr. Sinister
Dr. Doom
Nick Fury
Batman
Lex Luthor

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually there is. (but no mention of 4321 though)

I never knew that other Reality actually had a #, until just now, thanx to you. 🙂

Also AK decided to return to Earth on his own.

My Comics are on DVDs right now,

you'll have to give me some time, to upload and proceed.

Originally posted by Juntai
Oh, I see, you're speaking of Eternity's bio with Captain Marvel and The End. Interesting.

I was just about to repost that excerpt.

That in itself tells you it was the Prime Eternity.

Aside from On Panel in the END itself, Thanos letting us know by recollections.

Besides the many references in the Thanos series.

Besides the Other Abstract Bios.

Besides marunapp itself not designating THOTI or the Celestial Order Bios to 4321.

Is it a coincidence that only AK's Bio has any mention of this 4321?

AK who ruled another Reality before he arrived on 616?

I think not, it's pretty obvious.

Originally posted by Juntai
Marvel continuity makes my head hurt. 🙁

Marvel pisses me off sometimes.

Not the PIS itself,

but the acceptance of it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I was just about to repost that excerpt.

That in itself tells you it was the Prime Eternity.

Aside from On Panel in the END itself, Thanos letting us know by recollections.

Besides the many references in the Thanos series.

Besides the Other Abstract Bios.

Besides marunapp itself not designating THOTI or the Celestial Order Bios to 4321.

Is it a coincidence that only AK's Bio has any mention of this 4321?

AK who ruled another Reality before he arrived on 616?

I think not, it's pretty obvious.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Marvel pisses me off sometimes.

Not the PIS itself,

but the acceptance of it.