George Lucas says: "Spider-Man 3 is plain silly"
George Lucas says: "Spider-Man 3 is plain silly"
Most of what he said was true, actually. Did any of you read the article, or just blindly reply to the thread? The movie is silly, with no real purpose or storyline. Revenge? Please, the only one who was out for revenge didn't drop it until he got his ass beat. But I agree that Lucas is only saying it out of spite and sour grapes, rather than a true critique of it.
At least the prequels got better as they went on!
And at least you felt that lucas had SOME kind of a grand scheme; at least he attempted to make three films that had a point. At least the films had different kinds of action sequences (from duels and gladiatorial battles to chases and full-on war) - rather than endless different variations of the same thing: people fighting in mid-air - plus a damsel/aunt in distress. At least Lucas tried to get viewers to think about why governments do things, rather than being embarrasingly flag-waving.
The scene in Episode II with Anakin and Dooku battling with lightsabers in the dark as their faces are illuminated by the blades is better than Spiderman 1, 2 and 3 put together. So eat it.
Or the whole Clone War sequence in II with the camera zoom-ins on the clone gunships and troops in the command post. Brilliant. ILM or Sony Imageworks? ILM any day of the week. The FX in Spiderman 3 look DREADFUL.
Now I loved Spiderman 3 really, I think it's the best as far as action and I liked the conclusion of the Peter/Harry arc.
It's a good movie for popcorn fun.
But it IS silly.
It's not deep and complex as some would say.
It's "complex" that a meteor with a symbiote just happens to fall next to Peter Parker? It's "complex" that somehow Venom knows all about Sandman and his daughter and after a two second lame conversation they decide to fight Spiderman together (for no reason, there's no reward or anything)? "Complex" that a woman is hanging from a 40 story building and about to die, yet her father and boyfriend can stand idly by as peaceful as hindu cows making jokes? "Complex" that Bad Peter Parker manifests itself by a Petrelli haircut and jazz club dancing? Is that "complex" enough for you Rindain? What about the shameless pandering by having spiderman swing by a giant american flag? Is that complex? Or about the fifty or so little kids standing at the base of a construction site in the middle of the night while a huge superpowered battle is going on right above their heads? I guess it's a deep complexity as to why any parent would allow their kids to be standing there gawking upwards within a fifty feet of unbelievably mortal danger?
No, GL is right... it's silly.
Originally posted by H. S. 6Regardless of wether or not you liked the prequels they had a pretty rock-solid story, whether or not you thought parts of it were silly. I personally think in retrospect that TPM did a pretty brilliant job of setting a series of events in motion that the other two prequels tied up.
It's funny when grown men pout.Poor Lucas. Star Wars popularity is fading away and being replaced by better things. Guess he'll just have to go cry himself to sleep in his bed of money.
Pwnt. 😂
Lucas is 100% right about Spider-Man 3. It was built up by the previous two to be a natural continuation of that same 'feel', only to let down the core audience by dropping the feel of previous movies for an almost slapstick tone.
Lucas used the SAME humor, the SAME style of storytelling, and the SAME character archetypes in the prequels as he did in A New Hope. If you were expecting some dark, bloody, stylistic movie full of Jedi fighting Sith, and not much more, then you were clinging to the wrong franchise. Go watch Highlander or something.
Originally posted by steverulesJar Jar was ment to silly.
😂 this coming from a guy who created Jar Jar Binks
Whereas spidey, not so much. 😛
Originally posted by Micheal_MyersI like his Spider-Man comment.
Lucas is just feeling sour because Spiderman 3 beat his little record.Now he's gonna powt about it.Little does he know, nobody really cares about his new Indiana Jones movie, I think reviving an old franchise with the same OLD actors is "silly".Lucas needs to do something about his jealousy.
He doesn't have to kiss ass like most people in Hollywood...it was kind of a dumb movie, and at least someone in the business has the balls to say so.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))Of course they were.
I pretty much agree with GL, Spidey 3 was lacking hugely on plot and character development. Episode 1 TPM was much better then Spidey 3 IMO, as was ATOC and especially ROTS.
The prequels are set up like a mystery novel. Who knew that a trade dispute would set off a chain of events that lead to Galactic Civil War, the downfall of the Jedi, and the revenge of the Sith?
Awesome. 😎
Let 'em have it GL.
I thought the Star Wars prequels sucked.The guy the got to play Anakin was horrible.As a stage actor he would probably be okay,but on screen it was just terrible.I think GL did something amazing with the original Star Wars trilogy.He then did the prequels, which had very little life in them.So good action scenes but IMO nothing else.Spiderman did make some good plot lines that Lucas new trilogy were completly lacking in.Now i'm not saying spider man 3 was on par with something like the Usual Suspects or anything,but they managed to do a very good job.
I guess arguing this is pointless though.If your a star wars dork your gonna stick by GL.Their's nothing wrong with that though.He has the right to say what he feels. However,I belive Sam Rami could definently through George Lucas' comments back in his face and give some critical criticizm to Lucas' prequels.
Originally posted by mr.smiley
I think GL did something amazing with the original Star Wars trilogy.He then did the prequels, which had very little life in them.So good action scenes but IMO nothing else.
I agree with this, the OT was amazing while the PT was boring with the exception of ROTS (and only because I got to see Anakin getting schooled by his master). The PT lacked the most important thing, the Star Wars spirit, it was filled with action and CG, but stuff like a 10 year old Anakin starting to fall in love with a 14 year old Padme is ridiculous. I dare say that Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and it's sequel are "stronger in the Force" than anything GL has done in the last years.
Originally posted by the_satan32
I agree with this, the OT was amazing while the PT was boring with the exception of ROTS (and only because I got to see Anakin getting schooled by his master). The PT lacked the most important thing, the Star Wars spirit, it was filled with action and CG, but stuff like a 10 year old Anakin starting to fall in love with a 14 year old Padme is ridiculous. I dare say that Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and it's sequel are "stronger in the Force" than anything GL has done in the last years.
I may have some problems with the PT, but I don't see how anybody can say that the OT has more story than the PT. (or that the Spiderman series does either.) The prequels are an incredible tapestry of subplots, motivations and machinations. We have the questionable motives of the Trade Federation blockade, a wily senator, a questionable boy with a miraculous origin, the return of the Sith, a prophecy revolving around the Jedi, the Jedi inability to use the Force anymore, an ex-Jedi leading a seperatist movement, a plot to kill a senator leading an anti-war bill, a secret army ordered under mysterious circumstances by a long-gone Jedi, a romantic subplot between a Jedi hero and a politician, a full-scale war, a blossoming relationship between a Sith politician and the Jedi hero, tensions between the Senate and the Jedi, our Jedi hero becoming an unwitting spy for the Sith, visions of the future, a secret pregnancy, the framing of the Jedi, the elimination of the Jedi, our hero turns to evil, and the Republic becomes the Empire.
It may have problems, but there's no way it's shorter on story than the OT.
And the PT certainly has more story than the Spiderman trilogy... heck ROTS on its own has more story than all of the "silly" Spiderman films.