Poor people should not have children.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You don't see what i see cause you're blind. And that's because you won't step outta your safe, little world and look at the real one and what's going on in terms of the problems poverty is creating in society.

I'm not gonna go down the list, but a large part of the problem is with having kids that parents or the system can't afford or support.

Remove that (silk) veil from your eye.

so you want the country to turn slightly communist and develope laws that say poor people cant have babies? or force people with a certain amount of income to sterilization factories!!?!?!?!??!

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
this isnt about the money. its about parenting, which in a generalized world bad parenting is caused by a bad up bringing which CAN be caused by poverty. When life is shitty, and you have no money, why not deal with it by beating the hell out of your child?

there are alot of stupid people in the world, i think we can all agree on that, and if they stopped having kids im sure that crime would go down by ALOT but thats going against their civil liberties which is wrong.

I have never seen so much generalisation in my whole time on these forums. That is utterly ridiculous, there are so many loving, genuine families that earn little.
So, your conclusion is that poor people are automatically stupid people, you have a lot to learn. There are plenty of cab drivers out there with degrees and you'd just look at them as another statistic of the failing poor demographic. So yes to you this is about money, as you seem to think that parenting and money go hand in hand.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Ok?

Answer me this. Do you think people whom can't afford kids, have 'em anyway?

what is the relevance of this question? ever hear of unplanned preganancies? unfortunate financial turns in life? ever hear of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

most people in u.s. jails are black. maybe we should jail them all as a precaution. (following your method of deductive reasoning of course)

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I have never seen so much generalisation in my whole time on these forums. That is utterly ridiculous, there are so many loving, genuine families that earn little.
So, your conclusion is that poor people are automatically stupid people, you have a lot to learn. There are plenty of cab drivers out there with degrees and you'd just look at them as another statistic of the failing poor demographic. So yes to you this is about money, as you seem to think that parenting and money go hand in hand.

sir, are you completely retarded? did you even read my post?

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
sir, are you completely retarded? did you even read my post?

No I'm not retarded and yes I did read your post. Reading it with the title of the thread in mind, that's the conclusion I came to. If you didn't mean what I thought you did, then you went completely off topic and that's your fault.

FistofTheNorth... As ever, your threads are a joke... Many a poor person has had children and those children [majority] do not go on to rob liquor stores, smoke crack or murder.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
No I'm not retarded and yes I did read your post. Reading it with the title of the thread in mind, that's the conclusion I came to. If you didn't mean what I thought you did, then you went completely off topic and that's your fault.

hmmm, I can't believe you aren't retarded.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You don't see what i see cause you're blind. And that's because you won't step outta your safe, little world and look at the real one and what's going on in terms of the problems poverty is creating in society.

I'm not gonna go down the list, but a large part of the problem is with having kids that parents or the system can't afford or support.

Remove that (silk) veil from your eye.

Right yeah and you've come to that conclusion, how? I'm not blind, I have stepped out of my 'safe' little world. I've travelled to countries with extreme poverty issues such as Morocco, Uganda, Niger, Indonesia etc. I've stayed in some of these places for several months. I think I probably know a lot more about what real poverty is than you do.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
hmmm, I can't believe you aren't retarded.

Believe what you want, mate.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
so you want the country to turn slightly communist and develope laws that say poor people cant have babies? or force people with a certain amount of income to sterilization factories!!?!?!?!??!

I am a capitalist and a fierce opponent of communism first of all, second of all, a law banning poor people from having babies "may" not be a bad idea where some sort of temporal and controlled sterilization can be considered and factored in, in special cases say involving those of extreme poverty.. Think about it. How is society and the economy suppose to flourish with the problems it has now with lots of poor people having lots and lots of poor children.

How can you or anyone on here genuinely support that?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Right yeah and you've come to that conclusion, how? I'm not blind, I have stepped out of my 'safe' little world. I've travelled to countries with extreme poverty issues such as Morocco, Uganda, Niger, Indonesia etc. I've stayed in some of these places for several months. I think I probably know a lot more about what real poverty is than you do.

awww you went on a mission for the poor

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I am a capitalist and a fierce opponent of communism first of all, second of all, a law banning poor people from having babies "may" not be a bad idea where some sort of temporal and controlled sterilization can be considered and factored in, in special cases say involving those of extreme poverty.. Think about it. How is society and the economy suppose to flourish with the problems it has now with lots of poor people having lots and lots of poor children.

How can you or anyone on here genuinely support that?

You're a tool... Do you think all poor people's children leach off the government and do nothing with themselves except commit crimes? As a capitlaist, you should [be willing] allow those "poor kids" to make something of themselves if they so wish. Duh.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
awww you went on a mission for the poor

No not really. Even if I did, does that deserve persecution?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I think I probably know a lot more about what real poverty is than you do.

True. Since we've phisically met and you actually know who I am, personally.

You got me there.

i know that if idiots were systematically sterilized, this thread would not exist.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
True. Since we've phisically met and you actually know who I am, personally.

You got me there.

Right, yeah, and you got me when you called me blind, and, accused me of never stepping outside my safe little world.

Originally posted by Robtard
FistofTheNorth... As ever, your threads are a joke... Many a poor person has had children and those children [majority] do not go on to rob liquor stores, smoke crack or murder.

Robturd, are these your statistics or made up ones or what...

Says who, is what i'm trying to say.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're a tool... Do you think all poor people's children leach off the government and do nothing with themselves except commit crimes? As a capitlaist, you should [be willing] allow those "poor kids" to make something of themselves if they so wish. Duh.

Tool. I always think it funny when you guys say that. I always think a wrench for some reason though.

But i digress, as a capitalists, i do give back to the community the best i can, whether it's money-wise or talking to kids into doing the right thing when they're in the wrong, and it's blessing when they law abide but there's only so much i can do. But i believe what i believe because of what i see.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Robturd, are these your statistics or made up ones or what...

Says who, is what i'm trying to say.

Logic, something you seem to always want to fight against.

1) Low income families tend to have more children than middle and upper, that is a fact.

2) If these "poor children" were the menace you want to make them out to be [where's your proof btw?], America would be in anarchy.

3) How many low income children went on to make something of themselves? [Sports stars, musicians, doctors etc. etc. etc.]

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Right, yeah, and you got me when you called me blind, and, accused me of never stepping outside my safe little world.

I never said you've never stepped out. You probably did step out for a moment but still had a veil on.

I really meant try stepping out unveiled. Then talk.