Mutant Classification Levels.

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Originally posted by Soljer
Alpha-level mutants have powerful abilities and pretty much no disadvantages. They look totally human. Ex. Cyclops, Wolverine, Emma Frost, Professor X.

Beta-level mutants are JUST as powerful as alphas, but have disadvantageous physical flaws. Angel, Beast, Nightcrawler, Mystique, etc.

Gamma-level mutants are equally as powerful, but have LARGER disadvantages. Rogue, Cloak, Dagger, Blob, etc.

Deltas are weaker than Alpha/beta/gamma mutants, but have flaws just the same.

Epsilon-Deltas are mutants who simply haven't activated their 'power.' Latent mutants are Epsilon-Delta.

Epsilon mutants have slight gifts, but crippling flaws. Beak, Wither, etc.

Zeta mutants are mutants without the X-gene. They have no superhuman traits. I'm not entirely sure what makes them mutants,by that logic, however...

Omegas are mutants who have never been used as David_Richards' screen name. Examples exclude Starhawk, David Richards, Bastion, etc.

Wouldn't Mystique be Alpha, she can shape-shift to look just like her original form.BTW good one 😂

Soljer just classified Wolverine as alpha class <3

lol

What is wrong with Wolverine being an alpha? 😕.

The Alpha/Beta/Gamma classifications all are equally powerful.

For example, Rogue, a gamma, can absorb the powers of anyone on the planet. Permanently, if need be. That's pretty damned powerful. However, her disadvantages due to this power are also pretty damned large.

Likewise, Nightcrawler can teleport damn near anywhere damn near instantaneously. Also pretty damned powerful, but because of his physical appearance, he is considered a beta.

While only 10% (pre-decimation, I have no idea about the figures afterwards) of mutants are Alphas....pretty much ALL the ones who get any screentime are Alpha. 😬.

Also, thank you to who quoted my message, it saves me the trouble of having to bump an 'end-of-page' message. 🙂.

Originally posted by Soljer

For example, Rogue, a gamma, can absorb the powers of anyone on the planet. Permanently, if need be. That's pretty damned powerful. However, her disadvantages due to this power are also pretty damned large.

Likewise, Nightcrawler can teleport damn near anywhere damn near instantaneously. Also pretty damned powerful, but because of his physical appearance, he is considered a beta.

That's a... lot of damnation. ermmnone

It's funny, because I think Wolverine/Sabretooth are easily distinguishable as mutants. It really depends on how they're depicted.

In some comics Wolverine looks like an animal almost.

beast and angel are alphas. where are you making up these other terms from? i know epsilon-delta was a one-off about kids, which presumably meant they were latent, but where did this other stuff come from?

Originally posted by Soljer
Alpha-level mutants have powerful abilities and pretty much no disadvantages. They look totally human. Ex. Cyclops, Wolverine, Emma Frost, Professor X.

Beta-level mutants are JUST as powerful as alphas, but have disadvantageous physical flaws. Angel, Beast, Nightcrawler, Mystique, etc.

Gamma-level mutants are equally as powerful, but have LARGER disadvantages. Rogue, Cloak, Dagger, Blob, etc.

Deltas are weaker than Alpha/beta/gamma mutants, but have flaws just the same.

Epsilon-Deltas are mutants who simply haven't activated their 'power.' Latent mutants are Epsilon-Delta.

Epsilon mutants have slight gifts, but crippling flaws. Beak, Wither, etc.

Zeta mutants are mutants without the X-gene. They have no superhuman traits. I'm not entirely sure what makes them mutants,by that logic, however...

Where did you get these classifications from?

And for Betas how is Angel's physically abnormailty disadvatageous? It's his entire power.

Would Beast have originally been alpha but then switched to Beta when he turned blue? What about Rouge during the brief times that she lost the absorbing thing Gamma to Alpha? How about Jaspers his powers drove him insane would he be alpha because he looked the same or Gamma because the powers had a huge disadvatage?

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his serum was retconned into advancing his mutation much the same way sage's jumpstart does. he wouldn't have changed classes because it's still the same genetics. he's also an alpha, as is warren. i have no idea where this classification system is coming from.

If Jean Grey is an Omega doesn't that make Maddie an Omega as well?

Originally posted by Starhawk
If Jean Grey is an Omega doesn't that make Maddie an Omega as well?

No.

Originally posted by King KAM
Cable should be....so should legion adn proteus
thought proteus got killed long time ago? by colossus due to his metallic nature.....lol, that was like +15 years ago.

Originally posted by Soljer
No.

Why not? She's an exact clone of Jean.

Originally posted by sapphiremouse
thought proteus got killed long time ago? by colossus due to his metallic nature.....lol, that was like +15 years ago.

He was killed he was dispersed.

he was brought back together in one of the tie-ins across the x-titles a few years after. i think he either got dispersed again or the kid who was containing all of his energies blew up. i don't remember how it ended. but he was dead. and apparently came back in the House of M exiles tie-ins. and now he's trapped in morph.

he certainly had a lot of power, and if it wasn't for that pesky metal allergy he could've maybe gone on to become a contender when the "omega" label was created.

also, legion became most powerful when his mind healed into one personality, but then he died. and then his rogue alternate personalities were terrorizing israel or some such in excalibur 121. pretty sure they passed on peacefully at the end

You still haven't answered my question, Madyline Pryor should be an Omega as she is an exact clone of Jean Grey.

Proteus could be an Omega, but he does not have the reality altering powers on the level of Franklin or Scarlet Witch.

doesnt matter what level they're on, so long as he had infinite potential to grow. that was never stated, so we don't know.

clones are difficult to to by, considering the metaphysical aspects of omega. especially jean's clone. the beyonder speculated that jean would some day evolve into the cosmic congress to replace the phoenix, but would she really be able to do that if madelyne was doing the same? also, we don't know in what manner sinister may have altered madelyne, if at all. all we know is that it was never addressed and is too cloudy to leave up to simple "if this, then that" judgements.

Just to be clear on this:

Omega level is a mutant with unlimited potential in there powers. Is there any other criteria?

none that have been applied across the board. in jean's case, the beyonder made mention that she could evolve to replace the phoenix force in the next cosmic congress. the term transcendence is often used in reference to omega level mutants, but that seems to be more a trend than a criteria. for example, mr. m seemingly just died, whereas kid omega underwent a secondary mutation at his "death."

the only other criteria, which is not really related to powers or genetics at all, is being labelled an omega level mutant on panel. this is why chamber and storm are held in high regard, because not only have they shown amazing potential, but they've been labelled "possible" omega mutants in the comics.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Just to be clear on this:

Omega level is a mutant with unlimited potential in there powers. Is there any other criteria?

Yes. There is a criteria for a mutant to be classified as omega. One and ONLY ONE criteria.

Text. 😐.

A bio that says so, or on panel confirmation of 'omega-ness.' Anything else is supposition. 🙂.

the classifiactions are coming from one of the really ol school handbooks. the ones that used to print in black and white