they haven't been confirmed either way. it's possibly a genetic defect, inherent in both due to their strikingly similar genetic structure, that causes the body to be incapable of handling the full brunt of their power; omega or otherwise. we'll probably never know for nate [grey,] and cable's powers are too on-again-off-again to really warrant continued speculation. same with magneto's, from decades past. unless someone comes out and says something to one end or the other, in the comics, it's rather pointless to continue this guessing game.
Originally posted by NikkolasNate is the test tube child of an alternate future Scott and Jean, Cable is the child of a clone of Jean and 616 Scott - so neither are really directly the children of 616 Jean Grey...
The reasoN Cable and Nate "burn out" apparently is [B]because they are only Alpha-level mutants. Unlike their sister and mother, theri bodies do not have the Omega "unlimited" potential and thus, their power will destroy themselves. [/B]
And Rachel isn't an Omega mutant.
Originally posted by Disappear
[B] a more valid one is the more recent retcon, from phoenix: endsong, where the shi'ar said that only an omega level mutant could be a long-term host of the phoenix force. still, she's yet to be directly referenced, despite literally dozens of opportune moments.
Problem here is that in Warsong Celeste was able to act as a host for the Phoenix Force. They also explained why Emma was a shell rather then a host. It was because emotionally she isn't like Celeste or Jean she's "cold". In Endsong Kid Omega was unable to satisfy the Phoenix's Hunger for human emotion("Love"😉 which caused it to leave him. Human emotion(Love in particular) is what can tame the Phoenix for a while.(Even Jean could never control it). So anyway I think that Omega Mutant/Phoenix Host theory should be blown out of the water aswell since those Shiar guys were just speculating and appear to be wrong twice. 😬
I finally found what the heck that IGN article was alluding to. It wasn't in the GLXmas issue it was in GLA #4 and it's not even concrete.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/243/gla04page06cg7.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/557/gla04page07qv2.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9377/gla04page08qi1.jpg
homo supreme was likely a joke term, used specifically so that the gay joke [mr. i always one-upping flatman] would be funnier. all that's been revealed about hsi is, as pointed out, that he's a mutant who evolved beyond death. there were apparently a group of these immortal mutants [the externals] for a while, until their existence and "immortality" got dropped without further development due to the lawsuits from the highlander people.
anyway, he's not confirmed as an omega; nor is rachel.
Originally posted by Soljer
But starhawk manipulated the white hot room!And Rachel was CONFIRMED ON PANEL to be an omega!
Your opinion < On panel evidence....
😛.
😛 I've been trying to fix the Omega Level Mutant article at Wiki. So far the general consensus has agreed that Rachel isn't a Omega Level Mutant. I'm still waiting for a verdict on Mr Immortal.
However there's some loon who's using this IGN article as canonical proof that Rachel is one.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/706/706450p1.html
So I'm giving up...Wiki will always be a mess.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
so true so true
yoda section for on psises me off.
Heh, these days they'll let anyone use the internet. 😛
Might as well post this then (Keep it on topic)
I know I'm missing some(Especially Elixir and Jeans), but I was feeling lazy.
'''Vulcan''':
- ''Uncanny X-Men #477''
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6879/uncannyxmen477010uc2.jpg
- ''Deadly Genesis #1''
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6025/xmendeadlygenesis01pagefi5.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9540/xmendeadlygenesis01pagena4.jpg
- ''Deadly Genesis #6''
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5781/xmdg0626yx0.jpg
'''Mr M'''
- ''X-Men 198 #2''
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8274/xmenthe1980212rr1.jpg
- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7140/xmenthe198files27rl3.jpg
'''Iceman'''
- ''X-Men Forever #3''
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5739/xmenforever3p20ic6.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1977/xmenforever3p21yf1.jpg
- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/244/xmenthe198files19pv4.jpg
'''Jean Grey'''
- ''X-Men Forever #3''
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5739/xmenforever3p20ic6.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1977/xmenforever3p21yf1.jpg
- ''Phoenix Endsong #3''
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9278/xmes0306xa5.jpg
'''Kid Omega'''
- ''Phoenix Endsong #3''
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9278/xmes0306xa5.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5843/xmes0315dr9.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2857/xmes0316tk7.jpg
- ''Phoenix Endsong #5''
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2285/page0304zb4.jpg
'''Elixir'''
- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9876/xmenthe198files14jk9.jpg
'''Franklin Richards'''
- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5189/xmenthe198files34xt7.jpg
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Heh, these days they'll let anyone use the internet. 😛Might as well post this then (Keep it on topic)
I know I'm missing some(Especially Elixir and Jeans), but I was feeling lazy.[b]'''Vulcan''':
- ''Uncanny X-Men #477''
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6879/uncannyxmen477010uc2.jpg- ''Deadly Genesis #1''
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6025/xmendeadlygenesis01pagefi5.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9540/xmendeadlygenesis01pagena4.jpg- ''Deadly Genesis #6''
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5781/xmdg0626yx0.jpg'''Mr M'''
- ''X-Men 198 #2''
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8274/xmenthe1980212rr1.jpg- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7140/xmenthe198files27rl3.jpg'''Iceman'''
- ''X-Men Forever #3''
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5739/xmenforever3p20ic6.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1977/xmenforever3p21yf1.jpg- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/244/xmenthe198files19pv4.jpg'''Jean Grey'''
- ''X-Men Forever #3''
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5739/xmenforever3p20ic6.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1977/xmenforever3p21yf1.jpg- ''Phoenix Endsong #3''
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9278/xmes0306xa5.jpg'''Kid Omega'''
- ''Phoenix Endsong #3''
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9278/xmes0306xa5.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5843/xmes0315dr9.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2857/xmes0316tk7.jpg- ''Phoenix Endsong #5''
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2285/page0304zb4.jpg'''Elixir'''
- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9876/xmenthe198files14jk9.jpg'''Franklin Richards'''
- ''X-Men 198 Files''
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5189/xmenthe198files34xt7.jpg[/B]
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