The New Avengers Discussion Thread

Started by Darth Vicious7 pages

Originally posted by Grimm22
Thats pretty much the only reason i'm picking this book up

Oh and for Hawkeye 😄

But, I could still do without Cage's stupid rants about how he doesn't trust anyone 😬

Same here. They could kill Cage right now and it wouldnt have no effect on me. I guess I tolerate him because of the other characters.

The art's very "meh" in places. The writing's okay (as has been said, Bendis needs to leave Wong alone, Strange is severely depowered without explanation, and Spider-Man is cracking jokes when he clearly shouldn't be), but I'm a sucker for team books like this, so I pick it up.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
The thing Im liking about NA is that it seems to be on their way to answer some unresolved questions going all the way back to NA # 1.

I agree entirely, that's what's appealing to me at the moment as well. The whole business with SHIELD being considered rotten since issue 1. The foreboding image of Tony stark looking worried with the word SHIELD written behind him (that's in mighty avengers 1) I like the idea there might be a big mastermind behind the breakout, the problems with SHIELD and part of civil war as well ✅

Originally posted by H. S. 6
The art's very "meh" in places. The writing's okay (as has been said, Bendis needs to leave Wong alone, Strange is severely depowered without explanation, and Spider-Man is cracking jokes when he clearly shouldn't be), but I'm a sucker for team books like this, so I pick it up.

Why shouldn't Spidey be cracking jokes?

Originally posted by marvelprince
Why shouldn't Spidey be cracking jokes?

Have you read the recent Amazing?

(Unless of course, this is before Aunt May is shot.)

Actually I think its a while later. Aunt May is shot, then immediately after he dons the black costume and goes through the events in Amazing. The events of Amazing now all take place before the events in Daredevil which run concurrent with the events in New Avengers I believe. So that means Spider-Man would have had time to go through the events in his book now (tracking the killer, etc) and get the "resolutiuon" he needs to go back to the way he was.

New Solicits:

COVER BY: LEINIL FRANCIS YU
WRITER: BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
PENCILS: LEINIL FRANCIS YU
COLORED BY: DAVE MCCAIG
LETTERED BY: COMICRAFT

THE STORY:
The New Avengers have found a huge clue to the threat that has faced them since the day they banded together. And now just the knowledge of that threat is tearing them apart. What secret could be so damning that it could do to the New Avengers what the Civil War could not??
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=23902&sessionid=e1a9afd24cd90bdf6c3a7d63df5e35cb

NEW AVENGERS #33
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Pencils and Cover by LEINIL FRANCIS YU
Still reeling from the new reveals about their lives and shocking betrayal of one of their own, the New Avengers press forward, trying to find a way to trust each other. All that and The Hood starts his takeover as Kingpin of the super-villains. So dust off your old Marvel Handbooks, because you will not believe who he is gathering to join him and who he kills to make his mark!
Plus guest-star Deathlok!!!
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

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Looking forward to #33 especially. The Hood has been a fav character of mine

Meh, The Hood pwned, Do we know why he pwned?

Because BKV created and wrote him.

What do we know about when Bendis takes over things that BKV pwns at?

They become shit.

For example: Dr Strange.

Dr Strange : The Oath = Teh Pwnsorozors!!111!1!!

Dr Strange in NA.. 😐 ❌

Eh, I like his Strange. Enough with invincible thing already. BKV had it right imo but I see nothing wrong with Bendis's DS.

I think Bendis's Hood will be great (definitely better than that Hood lite who was in Beyond!). The Hood is the kind of characters Bendis writes well imo. Just look at his Daredevil for how he handles those type of characters. Far from shit my friend

Originally posted by marvelprince
Eh, I like his Strange. Enough with invincible thing already. BKV had it right imo but I see nothing wrong with Bendis's DS.

I think Bendis's Hood will be great (definitely better than that Hood lite who was in Beyond!). The Hood is the kind of characters Bendis writes well imo. Just look at his Daredevil for how he handles those type of characters. Far from shit my friend

I've read his Dardevil run, IMO it's not as great as some people make it out to be. I still reckon given a bit more time, Brubaker's run will over-take it. Bendis may have a niche for street level characters, but other than Daredevil he has rarely emulated that level of writing. Look at what he did to Hawkeye.

I don't think anybody could write anything better than BKV, he's probably the best comic writer around. Dan Slott either tied or second.

I don't like how 'The Hood' is being dragged from reluctant, anti-heroish into straight villain. I would have liked him to have stayed rather morally ambigous for a while, but I guess i'll have to wait and see.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I've read his Dardevil run, IMO it's not as great as some people make it out to be. I still reckon given a bit more time, Brubaker's run will over-take it. Bendis may have a niche for street level characters, but other than Daredevil he has rarely emulated that level of writing. Look at what he did to Hawkeye.

Wow. Guess its about taste. After Miller of course I can't think of a DD writer I've enjoyed more. Brubaker's Daredevil is good an all but I'm not liking it more than Bendis's run.

What's so horribelbout what he did to Hawkeye? Kill him repeatedly? Still think he writes a great Clint.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I don't think anybody could write anything better than BKV, he's probably the best comic writer around. Dan Slott either tied or second.

BKV's cool to me. I love Slott though.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I don't like how 'The Hood' is being dragged from reluctant, anti-heroish into straight villain. I would have liked him to have stayed rather morally ambigous for a while, but I guess i'll have to wait and see.

I liked to think of him as the villian that I like to cheer for. I know even the mini made him more "heroic" at the end, but I agreed with the other villians in the book that he would make a serious bad guy with that mind of his.

I can't tel you how much I hated what they did with him in Beyond! though. That just wasn't right.

Meh, Bendis' run on DD is definetly the best one, but I still think it moved quite a slow pace (as most of Bendis' books do). Given enough time, I reckon Brubaker's run could easily be much better, he's a much, much, much more talented writer IMO.

What was so horrible? "Not like this!! Not like this!!" Bendis Hawkeye = Atrocious. He shouldn't be allowed to touch him, at all.

Slott and BKV pretty much make me happy to read comic books, especially Slott since he's pretty much just a fanboy at heart. I like how both of them have a mastery of continuity, also how versatile they are (Slott writing humorous books like She Hulk and then gritty ones like Gotham Central, and BKV writing books about teenage superheroes like Runaways and then stuff like The Hood).

I can see what you mean about "The Hood" though, but I still can't see how he would go from doing petty crimes (compared to some of the villains in the MU) to being the new Kingpin. I would much rather see him being used by a better writer aswell, even though I think some of the stick Bendis gets is uncalled for.

I hate the art.

Ever since I started reading NA, I've had the idea that someone big was pulling the strings on SHIELD, Hydra, etc. And maybe they're responsible for CW as well.

Any thoughts on which criminal mastermind is responsible? My pick is the Red Skull. Superheroes fighting each other, worldwide organizations tearing themselves apart, fear and panic on the rise, and the Skull himself has just orchestrated the assasination of his biggest enemy, Captain America. Does anyone else see this whole thing as being his handiwork? shrug

Has Ronin been revealed yet?

who gunna betray the new avenegers?

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Has Ronin been revealed yet?

ya he hawlkeye

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Meh, Bendis' run on DD is definetly the best one, but I still think it moved quite a slow pace (as most of Bendis' books do). Given enough time, I reckon Brubaker's run could easily be much better, he's a much, much, much more talented writer IMO.

We'll see. I've liked Ed's DD so far but nothing YET to make me think he's going to leave more of an impression than Bendis.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
What was so horrible? "Not like this!! Not like this!!" Bendis Hawkeye = Atrocious. He shouldn't be allowed to touch him, at all.

I like his take on Clint, though his constant killing him off seems to indicate that he's not too fond of the character.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Slott and BKV pretty much make me happy to read comic books, especially Slott since he's pretty much just a fanboy at heart. I like how both of them have a mastery of continuity, also how versatile they are (Slott writing humorous books like She Hulk and then gritty ones like Gotham Central, and BKV writing books about teenage superheroes like Runaways and then stuff like The Hood).

Honestly I had no idea that the same person behind GLA Misassembled was behind the Arkham mini. Slott is the man.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I can see what you mean about "The Hood" though, but I still can't see how he would go from doing petty crimes (compared to some of the villains in the MU) to being the new Kingpin. I would much rather see him being used by a better writer aswell, even though I think some of the stick Bendis gets is uncalled for.

He does hint toward bigger things at the end of his mini. Honestly his new direction was hinted at from then. He wants to be a super villian, but has a brain for organized crime. Shocker was pretty freakin impressed with him. Natural progression imo.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ever since I started reading NA, I've had the idea that someone big was pulling the strings on SHIELD, Hydra, etc. And maybe they're responsible for CW as well.

Any thoughts on which criminal mastermind is responsible? My pick is the Red Skull. Superheroes fighting each other, worldwide organizations tearing themselves apart, fear and panic on the rise, and the Skull himself has just orchestrated the assasination of his biggest enemy, Captain America. Does anyone else see this whole thing as being his handiwork? shrug

Could be. I don't think it'll be an "overt" bad guy if that makes any sense. Meaning I don't think it'll end up being a classic mastermind. Not Doom, or Red Skull, maybe someone magically like Mephisto or even the Skrulls.

Originally posted by marvelprince
We'll see. I've liked Ed's DD so far but nothing YET to make me think he's going to leave more of an impression than Bendis.

I like his take on Clint, though his constant killing him off seems to indicate that he's not too fond of the character.

Honestly I had no idea that the same person behind GLA Misassembled was behind the Arkham mini. Slott is the man.

He does hint toward bigger things at the end of his mini. Honestly his new direction was hinted at from then. He wants to be a super villian, but has a brain for organized crime. Shocker was pretty freakin impressed with him. Natural progression imo.

I think Ed does brilliant works with mysteries though, he doesn't shy away from choosing the obvious choice (something Bendis does all too often, yet somehow Brubaker does it in a way that makes it work. Whereas Bendis flops. ie Winter Soldier being Bucky, compared to Ronin being Hawkeye). I just like Brubaker's style of writing IMO, I still rate Bendis' run much better than anything Bru's produce as of yet though.

I think Clint's a very easy character to get right, which is a good thing for a character I guess. But I still dislike Brian Bendis on the whole, the whole reason Hercules or Thor aren't on the team is because he doesn't like ye olde english speak. Which really annoys me, he really shouldn't have that much say on it.

Slott's a legend, he's pretty much the same as any of the posters on this board. He gets excited in the interviews, when you read them you can really tell he cares about the characters that he's writing. I doubt he'll ever be the next Alan Moore, but he's a very realistic and down to earth guy. It's good to keep that when you get into the biz' without letting it go to your head, *cough*Mcfarlane*cough*.

I guess you're right about the Hood, but I still would much rather see him back in BKV's hands.