The New Avengers Discussion Thread

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ever since I started reading NA, I've had the idea that someone big was pulling the strings on SHIELD, Hydra, etc. And maybe they're responsible for CW as well.

Any thoughts on which criminal mastermind is responsible? My pick is the Red Skull. Superheroes fighting each other, worldwide organizations tearing themselves apart, fear and panic on the rise, and the Skull himself has just orchestrated the assasination of his biggest enemy, Captain America. Does anyone else see this whole thing as being his handiwork? shrug

I agree entirely and it's also been shown in mighty avengers (like I mentioned in an earlier post) but I am at a complete loss as to who it is. I mean it's gotta be big this person was not only responsible for civil war which was arguably one of the biggest Marvel events of all time but several other important events such as secret war, disassembled etc maybe it's scarlet Witch again????????

edit : what about Mandarin we haven't seen him in a while????

Originally posted by marvelprince
Could be. I don't think it'll be an "overt" bad guy if that makes any sense. Meaning I don't think it'll end up being a classic mastermind. Not Doom, or Red Skull, maybe someone magically like Mephisto or even the Skrulls.

Mephisto wouldn't work through earthly agents nor would he want to stockpile Vibranium. Skrulls got ****ed by the annihilation wave, so they're out.

It's obviously going to be Fury.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mephisto wouldn't work through earthly agents nor would he want to stockpile Vibranium. Skrulls got ****ed by the annihilation wave, so they're out.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
It's obviously going to be Fury.

That would be sooooo cool. Although I'm not too keen on Fury being a bad guy 🙁

Mandarin is dead. and I doubt it's his son Temugin.

It's not Fury. He was fighting against this thing and using Spider-Woman as a decoy and triple agent.

Originally posted by capt it up
ya he hawlkeye

Are you serious?

✅ Clint Barton is Ronin, although Tony Stark would rather Clint become Cap ✅

still say some one should punt **** tony.......

As long as that person isn't Wolverine 😄

i could have sworn mandarin came back recently. i rememeber a scene in a jail cell. a figure is meditating in the center, chained into the ground. a group of men come in and claim they've found mandarin. they have the ten rings in a little case. mandarin ignores them, and when the men become convinced he's not mandarin, they decide to kill the man. the man rips the chains out of the concrete and wtfpwns the whole room.

anyone remember this? it would've been in the last two months.

candidates:

kang
red skull
doom
mandarin/temugin
mastermind
nick fury
mephisto...

i think fury would be my favorite of those.

i didnt feel;ing like creating a whole new thread, but the illuminati comes under the new avengers banner so anyone like the idea of Beyonder being retconned as an Inhuman mutant?...me personally i figure that the original retcon was so crappy that this one was good as any

Maybe Kang has been setting them up?

Kang messes with up everything to manipulate IM to become a jerk? It seems familiar...

In all seriousness, Kang manipulating things would be good as long as he isn't responsible for IM being a jerk.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mandarin is dead. and I doubt it's his son Temugin.

It's not Fury. He was fighting against this thing and using Spider-Woman as a decoy and triple agent.

mandarin's back, by the way. apparently he's just been meditating in some psych ward for years. i didn't read too closely, but that's the revelation in the latest few iron man issues.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Maybe Kang has been setting them up?

owned....

Maybe Doom? Hopefully someone who is intelligent or powerful. Maybe both..........

.........I will be mortified if it turns out to be Kangaroo.

anyone else cringe at the last few pages from New Avengers?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
anyone else cringe at the last few pages from New Avengers?

Spoiler:
Elektra was killed by Echo and is revealed to be a Skrull, and then the last panel we see Jessica and Cage's bady sense something is wrong. It was weird and hard to explain