Originally posted by jrodslam
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See, this is where you completely fail.
Telekinesis can isolate pretty much everything. After Hellion has crushed Iceman into bits, he can create a telekinetic bubble around him. That way Iceman can't absorb any liquid from him and reform. Are you keeping up with new x-men these days? Hellion's pretty much capable of bursting through any form of defense.
I know Iceman reformed after being "killed" by Fuego. But that's through means that wouldn't work on Hellion.
I doubt Iceman could defeat The Stranger a proper fight, if I'm thinking about the right one.
Originally posted by llagrok
See, this is where you completely fail.Telekinesis can isolate pretty much everything. After Hellion has crushed Iceman into bits, he can create a telekinetic bubble around him. That way Iceman can't absorb any liquid from him and reform. Are you keeping up with new x-men these days? Hellion's pretty much capable of bursting through any form of defense.
I know Iceman reformed after being "killed" by Fuego. But that's through means that wouldn't work on Hellion.
I doubt Iceman could defeat The Stranger a proper fight, if I'm thinking about the right one.
I fail to see where ive failed.
After Iceman is crushed into bits, his conciousness can be wherever. Iceman may be able to manipulate Hellions blood before hes even shattered.
Hell, last time i checked a flash freeze was instant.😬
How can Hellion defend against that?
And Iceman wasnt killed by Fuego. His body was destroyed/absorbed. Thats it.
Originally posted by jrodslam-
I fail to see where ive failed.After Iceman is crushed into bits, his conciousness can be wherever. Iceman may be able to manipulate Hellions blood before hes even shattered.
Hell, last time i checked a flash freeze was instant.😬
How can Hellion defend against that?
And Iceman wasnt killed by Fuego. His body was destroyed/absorbed. Thats it.
He can defend against it with TELEKINESIS
Originally posted by llagrok
-He can defend against it with TELEKINESIS
So he can keep his blood from being frozen in place with telekinesis? I doubt that. Unless ofcourse you canprove that.
Hellion can use telekinesis to block every water molecule in his body from INSTANTLY being frozen in place? Again, i doubt that. Unless ofcourse you can prove otherwise.
Originally posted by llagrok
See, this is where you completely fail.Telekinesis can isolate pretty much everything. After Hellion has crushed Iceman into bits, he can create a telekinetic bubble around him. That way Iceman can't absorb any liquid from him and reform. Are you keeping up with new x-men these days? Hellion's pretty much capable of bursting through any form of defense.
I know Iceman reformed after being "killed" by Fuego. But that's through means that wouldn't work on Hellion.
I doubt Iceman could defeat The Stranger a proper fight, if I'm thinking about the right one.
Well, Julian has all the possibilities for successful sneak attack on Iceman. Julian is the best in New X-Men team to my taste...but in real duel with Iceman he loses, unless CIS is involved...
But that doesn't matter...I really doubt Iceman can cause major troubles to JLA team...But the telepathic duel between Martian Manhunter and Cable\X-Man would be a delight to watch. And poor Martian loses to the double team.
But as was already stated, Astroforce is the JLA's trump card.
Originally posted by jrodslam
So he can keep his blood from being frozen in place with telekinesis? I doubt that. Unless ofcourse you canprove that.Hellion can use telekinesis to block every water molecule in his body from INSTANTLY being frozen in place? Again, i doubt that. Unless ofcourse you can prove otherwise.
Telekinesis.
When I see a scan of Iceman killing a student with flash freeze, or any person for that matter. I'll believe you.
Hellion has no scruples when it comes to attacking friends/teachers.
Until then, Telekinesis protects him 🙂
Originally posted by llagrok
Stranger > IcemanHellion > Iceman
Telekinetic bubble around Iceman rubble.
Originally posted by outavodka
Julian was ampd by whitequeen before he did that and passed out very shortly after going thru a O.N.E sentinel. Bobby now knows there are humans inside, meaning if bloodlusted theres that chance the humans inside become frozen eh...
You are wrong 🙂
But do not despair, there is nothing wrong in being wrong 🙂
He wasn't amped beyond his abilities. Emma just unlocked his full potential, and even though the effect was shortlasting, Julian was able to use his powers on higher level after that incident.
And about O N E Sentinel... if Iceman was really capable of flash freeze to the avbsolute zero, he'd be able to break Sentinel like nothing. But he lost to fuc*ing mecha...shame on him.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
The JLA would win. They are simply more powerful than the other two teams. Hulk and Wonderman won't be too much help for the Avengers, and Magneto and Iceman wouldn't last long for the X-Men.
I'm gonna have to disagree. Iceman and Magneto are both quite durable.
Backed by two good psychics is enough for them to actually win this IMO.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm gonna have to disagree. Iceman and Magneto are both quite durable.Backed by two good psychics is enough for them to actually win this IMO.
The problem is the two psychics are their most powerful members, and they will be too busy dealing with MM to be of any help against the others.
Magneto is powerful, but I don't recall him ever taking on anyone in the herald level except for Thor (and even there he was in the fight because he was able to control his hammer).
Iceman is durable, but besides the PIS against the Stranger, what else has he done? Who else has he faced who was herald level and held his own?
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
He wasn't amped beyond his abilities. Emma just unlocked his full potential, and even though the effect was shortlasting, Julian was able to use his powers on higher level after that incident.And about O N E Sentinel... if Iceman was really capable of flash freeze to the avbsolute zero, he'd be able to break Sentinel like nothing. But he lost to fuc*ing mecha...shame on him.
He's still at full power, he just doesn't have any control. Like he demonstrated when trying to pick up the paperclip 🙂
Originally posted by celestialdemon
The problem is the two psychics are their most powerful members, and they will be too busy dealing with MM to be of any help against the others.Magneto is powerful, but I don't recall him ever taking on anyone in the herald level except for Thor (and even there he was in the fight because he was able to control his hammer).
Iceman is durable, but besides the PIS against the Stranger, what else has he done? Who else has he faced who was herald level and held his own?
His offense is at least enough to make a good distraction against the other teams (keep freezing or trying to liquify them). His durability is what makes him the biggest asset. With Cable or Nate protecting his mind there isn't much that can be done to him that he won't reform from.
If the opposing psychics are taken out of the picture some how the only way Bobby is going to be beaten is by BFR.
Nate has that armor thing he can give people right? That would probably keep Mags in the fight for a long time and let him screw with people for a while until Cable or Nate can go on a major offensive.