The fight between Cable and the Surfer was barely even a fight. While Surfer was flying in the air holding Cable, Cable smashes the board and sends SS to the ground. Then he lands one punch that throws Surfer backwards. After that, Surfer shoots Cable with his eye beams. Fight over. Cable lost.
Oh, and it wasn't a cheap shot. Cable was facing SS when the attack happened, and Surfer's eyes glowed before he struck.
I say JLA...
i don't think the X-Men are as powerful as people are making them out to be, and besides, the only reason surfer could take the jla'ers is his energy manipulation... supes especially is on norrin's level when it comes to strength and durability...
iceman isn't as much an element in this fight when mm is there imo, and cable and nate still have to defend themselves, and the other two at the same time? i think that's slightly beyond them to be honest...
the avengers are capable of taking it, though the jla would take the win imo, they just have too much backing them...
✅ Martian is an ungodly powerful telepath, one of the most powerful in comics, and probably the best on DC earth. I'd put him over Nate in TP skill. Plus, Martian has the advantage of molecular manipulation to increase his powers and all the tricks and skills of the entire telepathic martian race.
WonderWoman's lasso is a major weapon, which could take almost anyone here out. Not to mention the magic tiara does mondo magic damage.
Superman......is Superman.
Orion has the biggest gun in the unstoppable AF. Not to mention he's a homocidal maniac without his MB. Worst part, is he can still think. He definitely takes after his father in terms of battle ferocity.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest👆
✅ Martian is an ungodly powerful telepath, one of the most powerful in comics, and probably the best on DC earth. I'd put him over Nate in TP skill. Plus, Martian has the advantage of molecular manipulation to increase his powers and all the tricks and skills of the entire telepathic martian race.WonderWoman's lasso is a major weapon, which could take almost anyone here out. Not to mention the magic tiara does mondo magic damage.
Superman......is Superman.
Orion has the biggest gun in the unstoppable AF. Not to mention he's a homocidal maniac without his MB. Worst part, is he can still think. He definitely takes after his father in terms of battle ferocity.
Originally posted by carver9
I still think that the xmen takes this. Just to much raw power (even though the jla have power of there own.)
but their power is exactly that, raw. the jla have been doing this gig for years, and in superman and diana's case, a few thousand years... experience will count for an awful lot in a fight like this imo...
i don't think it's fair to dismiss their experience just because somebody said they have a lot of raw power the only one of them who is not that experienced with his power is Xman, but he is hella creative when using them, Magneto has just about absolute control over his power, Cable was raised by an entire cult of telepathic time jumpers and Iceman no matter how ineffectual he may seem is one of the first X-men, Xavier and Jean have telepathic ways of jamming years of training into a persons mind, I think that may be part of the reason why a clown like Iceman has even survived this long. Now continue with your debating it amuses me 👿
Originally posted by LordKaos
i don't think it's fair to dismiss their experience just because somebody said they have a lot of raw power the only one of them who is not that experienced with his power is Xman, but he is hella creative when using them, Magneto has just about absolute control over his power, Cable was raised by an entire cult of telepathic time jumpers and Iceman no matter how ineffectual he may seem is one of the first X-men, Xavier and Jean have telepathic ways of jamming years of training into a persons mind, I think that may be part of the reason why a clown like Iceman has even survived this long. Now continue with your debating it amuses me 👿
i didnt say they werent experienced, i said that the JLA just had more...
that as well as their frankly awesome power (even higher than that of the x-men imo), wins it for them imo...
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
FYI, Orion is the oldest guy here.Anyways, all the good arguements have been said. And if you think the Askani or Cable&Nate are as good as the martian race when it comes to TP, you are tripping. vin
I'll assume that comment was for me, martians are born with telepathy, so are nate and cable, so making a comment about a telepathic race being better than two other natural telepaths is one sided especially since as far i know we have no idea if telepathic races train as vigorous at developing a talent (that to them is not a talent) that takes the place of mouthed speech. We can argue that Rachel taught the askani teachings to cable while she was wielding a portion of the Phoenix force, which at least when it was first envisioned derived all it's power from the psyches of every sentient being in the universe, you don't get more telepathic than that, but we won't argue why? because i was under the impression pr1983 was saying the x-men were nothing but raw power my impression was wrong.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Look at the results here for Son-Goku vs. Living Tribunal:
Seems reasonable 😖hifty:
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Look at the results here for Son-Goku vs. Living Tribunal:
Just Goku and the Living Tribunal being in the same sentence makes me want to 😘