Watchmen (Alan Moore)

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It will never match the Olympus Arc in Miracleman, it is the second greatest comic book story of all time.

Buckeroo Banzai was an AWESOME movie.

Okay, so I've recently read an interview with Zach Snyder Concerning Watchmen in Wizard and it got to debating (in my head, as I often do) what actors I would like to see play in The Watchmen.

So, armed with Photoshop, I've decided to make my picks here. I've only come up with four so far:

The Comedian = Mickey Rourke

Rorschach = Simon Pegg (Who Coincidentally was up for the role a couple of years back)

Ozymandias = Neal McDonough

And I don't know how you can argue because - for me:

Doc Manhatten ALWAYS = Billy Zane

So? What does everyone think?

Originally posted by long pig
(Reading his books are worse than reading the bible, but at least the bible has SOME semblance of beginning, middle and end.)....way overrated.

Hey c'mon the Bible rocks my socks. 66 books written by different authors and the fact that anyone can easily find a semblance of consistency and coherence suggests it has truth in it.

But anyway you can knock watchmen (Although I loved reading it, the doomsday clock addition was excellent IMO) You can knock some writers (Some mentioned are controversial but have had some good stuff IMO) but don't bring faith into this kind sir or I will be an unhappy chappy ✅

Originally posted by willRules
Hey c'mon the Bible rocks my socks. 66 books written by different authors and the fact that anyone can easily find a semblance of consistency and coherence suggests it has truth in it.

But anyway you can knock watchmen (Although I loved reading it, the doomsday clock addition was excellent IMO) You can knock some writers (Some mentioned are controversial but have had some good stuff IMO) but don't bring faith into this kind sir or I will be an unhappy chappy ✅

Um.... not to mention.... no semblance of Beginning, Middle, and end?

Funny how IN THE BEGINNING the Comedian Has died.... IN THE MIDDLE you have Rorschach in Prison... and IN THE END you have a conspiracy possibly put to light....

Put in a bunch of Meaningful Flashbacks that have all relevance to the story at hand and you have a beautifully written book called "The Watchmen". I guess if you consider Jumping into Flashbacks "non-consistant" then maybe you should.... god... I don't even KNOW what you should do.... stop reading altogether? Maybe enjoy a good flick like xXx or National Treasure.

Ehhh.....Like Kingdomcome,slightly overhyped.

Who overhyped it for you?

Look at the ass-kissin of it in this thread,and the ass kissing in the kingdom come one.

They're good,but not to the degree people say they are.

So annoying...

Okay, first of all.... "all the ass kissing in the thread"? It's a two freaking page thread... Wolverine has 100's of MULTIPLE threads with Thousands of posts in favor and out of favor. I can tell you right now that Spiderman/superman/batman/wonderwoman/flash/nightwing/300/TONS OF OTHERS ALL have more talkback than The Watchmen does. I agree, FAR too much ass kissing 🙄

But lets take a look at what people said about it:

CasanoVa:
It's great

This was a true statement... it IS a great book... I see no ass kissing here. Next!

Grimm22: "It's a great book, although I don't think new readers appreciate it as much considering its mostly remembered for being the comic the revolutionized the industry and proved comics are more than superheroes fighting villains and whatnot"

This is ALSO true..... weird.. so it's now hype that it actually took something that so many people considered "kids stuff" and proved that comics can also be considered literature.... Very asskissing with this whole Truth then, eh?

Endless Mike: "It was very good"

So if tons of people say "I like Spiderman" does that not mean they are also kissing the ass of that as well?

Will Rules: "I thought it was great"

I wonder why he would say that?

Then there is another quote by CasanoVa talking about the intricacies of Villainy portrayed within the book... And a Conversation ensues.

Loot: "one of the best comic books ever"

Seeing as I believe it IS one of the best comics ever... I don't really consider it asskissery. What do YOU believe is one of the best comics ever, since apparently this one ISN'T it.

SnakeEyes: Just finished it. Wow, that was great. I hope the movie does it justice.

Nothing wrong with a first impression.

Then we have Long Pigs Opinion.... We all know what he said... which was by far the opposite of ass kissing...

How is it overhyped again?

I'm so sorry,I was under the impression that this was a thread where we were to post our thoughts on the subject,but i guess we are supposed to blindly agree in it's brilliance.

next time i'll just keep it to myself so i don't offend those who can't comprehend that peoples opinions and tastes differ.

I completely Understand a difference in opinion. But the reasoning behind your opinion was called into question by none other than... well, me.

But if you don't want to have a small debate about whether or not something is good, by all means, blame me for stating my own opinion ABOUT your opinion 😛

Seriously, no offense was intended I just fail to see how we are "asskissing" in this thread.

Not just this thread,but skattered through out all the forum you see people praising it and going off about when it's brilliance is called into question.

Why is it called into question?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Not just this thread,but skattered through out all the forum you see people praising it and going off about when it's brilliance is called into question.

I thought it was great but I don't "asskiss" it. In fact there are a fair few graphic novels I prefer to Watchmen, which others would say "No way watchmen is waaayyy better than that." I wouldn't say it's "asskissing" though, just a deep and disturbing love for a well written graphic novel 🙂

The cool thing with Watchmen is, the (amazing) storyline is full of little details you only notice when you reread it.

Yeah like the smilie face 🙂

Originally posted by long pig
It's not for intelligent people, it's for people who think "This book is for intelligent people, so I will force this tripe down my throat and make myself like it...even though it ****ing sucks hard ass.".

It's almost as overrated as Sandman, but at least Sandman was semi-good.

Those damn limey writers always seem to get high praise for doing jack shit. Ennis (yeah, I can make a character say "****" 100 times too, so where's my big check?), Morrison(Look at me, I'm Morrison and I'm holier than you cuz I don't eat meat!), Gaiman(Reading his books are worse than reading the bible, but at least the bible has SOME semblance of beginning, middle and end.)....way overrated.

Actually, dude's kinda got a point. I liked Watchmen so don't get me wrong, but it was far from a "favorite", but because it's a lot more literary and deals with varying themes that you don't normally see in comics, we sort of decide to like it despite our instincts.

I'll disagree with Sandman. Fragging love every minute of it. But it's the same thing with, say, The Godfather movies. I can watch them and say "Yeah, these are great films." But I don't particularly love them on a personal level....hell, I'd rather watch Spider-Man 3 again or something, even though it's obviously not the same level of "quality".

As for the rest of the rant, we all have problems with certain writers. I like very few writers completely (Warren Ellis, Gaiman, maybe 1-2 others) but it's more on a story-to-story basis, since all writers are capable of some utter crap.

Originally posted by long pig
It's not for intelligent people, it's for people who think "This book is for intelligent people, so I will force this tripe down my throat and make myself like it...even though it ****ing sucks hard ass.".

It's almost as overrated as Sandman, but at least Sandman was semi-good.

Those damn limey writers always seem to get high praise for doing jack shit. Ennis (yeah, I can make a character say "****" 100 times too, so where's my big check?), Morrison(Look at me, I'm Morrison and I'm holier than you cuz I don't eat meat!), Gaiman(Reading his books are worse than reading the bible, but at least the bible has SOME semblance of beginning, middle and end.)....way overrated.

Just cause it isn't "Drunk chicks over 60" or "The young and the naked" doesn't mean it isn't good. You should expand your horizons beyond illegal and unnatural erotica.

Originally posted by long pig
It's not for intelligent people, it's for people who think "This book is for intelligent people, so I will force this tripe down my throat and make myself like it...even though it ****ing sucks hard ass.".

It's almost as overrated as Sandman, but at least Sandman was semi-good.

Those damn limey writers always seem to get high praise for doing jack shit. Ennis (yeah, I can make a character say "****" 100 times too, so where's my big check?), Morrison(Look at me, I'm Morrison and I'm holier than you cuz I don't eat meat!), Gaiman(Reading his books are worse than reading the bible, but at least the bible has SOME semblance of beginning, middle and end.)....way overrated.

This is pretty rich coming from a guy whose favourite character is Doctor Strange.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Actually, dude's kinda got a point. I liked Watchmen so don't get me wrong, but it was far from a "favorite", but because it's a lot more literary and deals with varying themes that you don't normally see in comics, we sort of decide to like it despite our instincts.

I'll disagree with Sandman. Fragging love every minute of it. But it's the same thing with, say, The Godfather movies. I can watch them and say "Yeah, these are great films." But I don't particularly love them on a personal level....hell, I'd rather watch Spider-Man 3 again or something, even though it's obviously not the same level of "quality".

As for the rest of the rant, we all have problems with certain writers. I like very few writers completely (Warren Ellis, Gaiman, maybe 1-2 others) but it's more on a story-to-story basis, since all writers are capable of some utter crap.

Yeah I see what you're saying but I think even if someone preferred a poor plot lined comic with great action scenes over a great, beautifully constructed yet possibly boring piece of literature, I'd still have some respect for it.

For example I just read one of Jane Austin's books; Emma. Being a typical bloke I thought it was a boring romantic novel which is all about sensitivity and dreary emotional issues. I'd much rather read the latest issue of Daredevil which I'm buying on Tuesday. However I have great respect for Austin's literacy skills and her genius at crafting and weaving together intricate plot lines.

well, i just read it and i liked it. maybe it's because i like stories that give you those little details. shrug