Watchmen (Alan Moore)

Started by celestialdemon10 pages

Originally posted by Newjak
I read and I agree with mst of what you wrote ok almost all of it 😛

My favorite scene out of the series though is when Doc Manhattan is first on Mars holding the picture.

Oh yeah. That whole chapter was great. First medium I've seen that gave me a good sense of what it feels like to experience the past, present, and future all at once. I'm excited and scared to see how the movie will portray that.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Oh yeah. That whole chapter was great. First medium I've seen that gave me a good sense of what it feels like to experience the past, present, and future all at once. I'm excited and scared to see how the movie will portray that.
I think it was mostly how Manhattan portrayed it... "Now it is 1965, and I am...", instead of "Back in 1965..."

Meh .... I just read it, I think it's a little overrated. Might be because I'm reading it so long after it was written ... like how some older films had that "whoa" factor when they came out but now they just feel dated.

Point is that I wasn't overly impressed by it at all.

😬

Love the film. Never read the book.

Would my KMC'ers suggest I get the graphic novel or the Motion Comic dvd?

Keep in mind the graphic novel is loads more expensive.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Meh .... I just read it, I think it's a little overrated. Might be because I'm reading it so long after it was written ... like how some older films had that "whoa" factor when they came out but now they just feel dated.

Point is that I wasn't overly impressed by it at all.

😬

When did you grow up?

I was excited to see how they'd portray that scene too, Celestial.

Shame they decided it wasn't important. Despite it factually being important.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Love the film. Never read the book.

Would my KMC'ers suggest I get the graphic novel or the Motion Comic dvd?

Keep in mind the graphic novel is loads more expensive.

This is almost actual blasphemy, considering you go around hyping the movie to the sky.

Also, don't get the "motion comic". Pick up the book, stop being so lazy. You should have read Watchmen by now. It's sad that it took a movie to give you interest in the greatest comic of all time.

-AC

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Love the film. Never read the book.

Would my KMC'ers suggest I get the graphic novel or the Motion Comic dvd?

Keep in mind the graphic novel is loads more expensive.

Not really, the graphic novel at Walmart is 12 dollars.
the motion comic is 19.
at least my local store.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I was excited to see how they'd portray that scene too, Celestial.

Shame they decided it wasn't important. Despite it factually being important.

This is almost actual blasphemy, considering you go around hyping the movie to the sky.

Also, don't get the "motion comic". Pick up the book, stop being so lazy. You should have read Watchmen by now. It's sad that it took a movie to give you interest in the greatest comic of all time.

-AC

Honestly I didn't read it till I heard about a movie coming out.

and I don't like it as much as most people, i mean its good but its not the greatest

I think that people who don't think it deserves the praise it gets, for what it is and what it did for the medium, simply don't understand the book properly.

Yes, that's presumptuous and elitist, but I believe it to be the truth. I believe there is a certain level of intellect required to TRULY appreciate it fully. Obviously, nobody's gonna admit that, but still.

-AC

No like i said It's good and did alot for comics, but that doesn't mean i think it's the greatest comic. In terms of influence and what all it accomplsihed yes. But overall quality no

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This is almost actual blasphemy, considering you go around hyping the movie to the sky.
What's blasphemy is the fact that you continue to insult me because I appreciate the film for what it is: a movie. I have not read the book so I've not ever compared the film to such. Just because you didn't like the film, doesn't mean anyone else can't. Also, if you feel it was such shit which films of the genre do you feel are superior to it. Obviously, you've stated your opinion on The Dark Knight and it's pretty evident you feel that is superior but I'm curious to know which other films you think are.

I asked a question on suggestions towards which I should purchase. No need to call anyone lazy. I was under the impression to a point the Motion Comic was better in the fact that there is just that: motion.

Do you feel I'd get a better experience out of the graphic novel? By your reactions, I take it you do.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I was excited to see how they'd portray that scene too, Celestial.

Shame they decided it wasn't important. Despite it factually being important.

This is almost actual blasphemy, considering you go around hyping the movie to the sky.

Also, don't get the "motion comic". Pick up the book, stop being so lazy. You should have read Watchmen by now. It's sad that it took a movie to give you interest in the greatest comic of all time.

-AC

Pretty stupid to have that reaction over one comic. Its good yes but hasn't kept me coming back, I'm on the 4th right now and will finish it eventually.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I think that people who don't think it deserves the praise it gets, for what it is and what it did for the medium, simply don't understand the book properly.

Yes, that's presumptuous and elitist, but I believe it to be the truth. I believe there is a certain level of intellect required to TRULY appreciate it fully. Obviously, nobody's gonna admit that, but still.

-AC

I think you have to be have been reading comics for some time, to truly understand what sets it apart from the rest as well. You can't just hand someone kingdom come, or Watchmen, Sandman or any of the all time classics really, and expect them to appreciate it as much as an avid comic reader who gets ahold of them for the first time

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Oh yeah. That whole chapter was great. First medium I've seen that gave me a good sense of what it feels like to experience the past, present, and future all at once. I'm excited and scared to see how the movie will portray that.

I think that was my favorite chapter. I thought the movie did an okay job portraying what I thought the chapter was conveying to me but it was a kick in the pants when one of my friends said one of his other friends said they did a good job livening up the most boring issue of the series.

Originally posted by Juntai
I think you have to be have been reading comics for some time, to truly understand what sets it apart from the rest as well. You can't just hand someone kingdom come, or Watchmen, Sandman or any of the all time classics really, and expect them to appreciate it as much as an avid comic reader who gets ahold of them for the first time

I have to agree. It really doesn't have the same impact, at least for me, nowadays. I understand its importance for its time but remain unwilling to give its story any extra credit for that.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
What's blasphemy is the fact that you continue to insult me because I appreciate the film for what it is: [B]a movie. I have not read the book so I've not ever compared the film to such. Just because you didn't like the film, doesn't mean anyone else can't. Also, if you feel it was such shit which films of the genre do you feel are superior to it. Obviously, you've stated your opinion on The Dark Knight and it's pretty evident you feel that is superior but I'm curious to know which other films you think are.

I asked a question on suggestions towards which I should purchase. No need to call anyone lazy. I was under the impression to a point the Motion Comic was better in the fact that there is just that: motion.

Do you feel I'd get a better experience out of the graphic novel? By your reactions, I take it you do. [/B]

Sin City, 300, Ghost World, Iron Man, The Dark Knight.

All more enjoyable as movies to me, and all more loyal to one degree or another. Story or character-wise.

-AC

300's action scenes were awesome no doubt.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Sin City, 300, Ghost World, Iron Man, The Dark Knight.

All more enjoyable as movies to me, and all more loyal to one degree or another. Story or character-wise.

Iron Man I have in the top 5. The lack of action sequences and dull third act hurts it. Sin City? I enjoyed Harrigan and Marv's stories. The others I cared less about. 300? Good film but nowhere near Watchmen in my book. Could care less about Ghost World, not my type.

The Dark Knight and Watchmen are in the same orbit. Right now I prefer Watchmen because it's relatively new and I'm strung out on TDK after viewing too many times. But nothing will ever top when I saw TDK for the first time in IMAX.

So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. 🙂

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Iron Man I have in the top 5. The lack of action sequences and dull third act hurts it. Sin City? I enjoyed Harrigan and Marv's stories. The others I cared less about. 300? Good film but nowhere near Watchmen in my book. Could care less about Ghost World, not my type.

The Dark Knight and Watchmen are in the same orbit. Right now I prefer Watchmen because it's relatively new and I'm strung out on TDK after viewing too many times. But nothing will ever top when I saw TDK for the first time in IMAX.

So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. 🙂

They're all more accurate, to one degree or another, than Watchmen. Watchmen fails because all Alan Moore's stories fail as movies, compared to the source material. That's not subjective, that's fact.

Whether you LIKE these movies or not is subjectiive. I just think that, as a comic fan already, you should have read the book if you knew a movie was coming out. That's just courtesy.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Whether you LIKE these movies or not is subjectiive. I just think that, as a comic fan already, you should have read the book if you knew a movie was coming out. That's just courtesy.

-AC

Why would he? The movies tend tom be extremely inaccurate to the comics and I find it far more enjoyable not to have read the comics before hand. Like x-men which is so in accurate to the comic it hurts ones eyes, spiderman ect.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Why would he? The movies tend tom be extremely inaccurate to the comics and I find it far more enjoyable not to have read the comics before hand. Like x-men which is so in accurate to the comic it hurts ones eyes, spiderman ect.

Spider-Man, like most Marvel movies, took plot liberties.

However, it was heavily character accurate and wasn't so changed that it became unclear as to who Spider-Man was, or was meant to be.

Genetic webbing was the biggest change and that, I totally get. Simply because the guy is struggling to pay for a car. How is he ever gonna afford webshooters?

Watchmen severly crippled certain characters.

-AC