LOTF Jacen Runs The Gauntlet

No rest.

1. TPM Darth Maul
2. AOTC Anakin
3. ROTS Mace Windu
4. ROTS Dooku & (pre-suit) Vader

10 hours of rest.

5. Ulic Qel-Droma & Darth Traya (no insta-kill)
6. DE Luke & ROTS Palpatine
7. Exar Kun & Darth Nihilus
8. NJO Luke
9. DE Sidious
10. He makes it.

Falls at 6, assuming he gets that far.

NJO Luke would be somewhat hard-pressed against those two, and I fail to see why LOTF Jacen would do better.

NJO Luke couldn't beat his weaker self and a weaker Palpatine?

"somewhat hard-pressed" does not equal "couldn't beat".

- Bob

He goes down at Mace.

You have a low opinion of Jacen it seems.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
You have a low opinion of Jacen it seems.

He has shown mastery of the force, but not enough with a lightsaber to put him anywhere close to Mace.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
He has shown mastery of the force, but not enough with a lightsaber to put him anywhere close to Mace.

Originally posted by kiddo44
And Mace has not shown anything in the force even close to what Jacen has done, flow walking, masking his presence completly in the force, Jacen would take out Mace, he would not have to engage in a lightsaber fight to do it.

Please explain to me what Jacen has that's useful in one on one combat?

He goes down at 4.

He has some chance of falling at four but might make. If he does he definately loses at five.

Jacen is hard for me to judge. He can do impressive things like flow walk and apparently was close to Luke in their duel, but he also had trouble besting Aurra Sing. TPM Maul > Aurra Sing, so by that logic he wouldn't be able to get past #1. If, however, he is close to Luke, he makes it to 6 or 7. I am also very confused as to the order of your list. Why is AOTC Anakin after Maul? Why is DE Sidious after NJO Luke? numbers 4 through 7 don't increase very much in difficulty, either, though they do increase slightly, I suppose, seeing as he gets no rest, too.

Yet another reason ABC's dont work...

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Yet another reason ABC's dont work...

Or perhaps there's the fact that Aurra probably got several times stronger in the sixty or so years since Maul's time. Come on, does anyone really think she stayed exactly the same for 60 YEARS!!!

Ok, well even with that tidbit of information, its still not a valid point being as her power level changed, and wouldn't be the same for both adversaries. Either way it doesn't work.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Or perhaps there's the fact that Aurra probably got several times stronger in the sixty or so years since Maul's time. Come on, does anyone really think she stayed exactly the same for 60 YEARS!!!

Originally posted by darthsith19
Why would she have gotten stronger? By the time that she fights Jacen she is 93 years old - assuming that she ages like a human, by this age she'd be far past her prime. Has she done anything else in the NJO era to show that she improved greatly?

Because the idea that she would have done anything besides get stronger in the more than 60 years since Maul was around in ridiculous.

BTW, although her father's species is unknown it was stated that he was a member of a very long lived species. She could probably live several centuries. 93 isn't that old.

Aurra had almost no Jedi training and did not rely on the Force. You can't compare her to a solid force user

How is she being compared to a solid Force User?