Magneto vs Iron Man

Originally posted by carver9
So youre telling me that when spiderman was rapped up in red sunlight when him and superman clashed that every lick that he gave off was killing superman. Are you telling me when superman was in the jla/jsa book and he was trapped in dr fates deminsion and was still flying and all but his powers was going away slowly (because he didnt have the yellow sun there to replinish his powers) that his powers was completely gone. Yes youre right the red sun does have an affect on him because theres no yellow sun to aid his powers. How can you keep your powers when there is nothing there to give it to you. I want you to understand that using yellow sun in a battle to test superman durability is just something that should be looked over because its a battery for him. Thats all I want you to understand.

First, learn what’s cannon. Once again you’re using non-cannon comics like Spider-Man VS Superman.

Superman has gone weeks without a yellow Sun. I take it that you’ve never read Final Night. Superman can survive in a Sun as long as it’s not a Red Sun. Why? Because Red Sun radiation drains his powers. That’s how Ruin was hurting him. With blasts of red sun radiation, people use red sun radiation against Superman as a weapon. Not only does it not power him like yellow sun radiation but it starts draining the yellow sun radiation out of his body.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
So if superman was to get hit with a bunch of nukes, and hurt badly, it would be PIS???

Depends when it happened. After Bryne's reboot it was possible to hurt him with nukes but these days it would be considered PIS.

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
He gets his power from the yellow sun radiation. Not from it’s immense gravity, when he’s in the sun he’s still affected by its gravity. The Sun has more going for it than just heat. Nukes can’t hurt Superman, he’s taken them before. I’ve already given you examples, such as him surviving the force of a million Nukes in Hunter/Prey.

He’s absorbed enough energy to lay waste to half the Galaxy. He survived the force of 50 Supernovas while severely drained. Nukes aren’t going to have any serious effect on him, one time he took nuke while standing on kryptonite laced sand, and he wasn’t even bleeding after it hit him. He’s survived inside of a red sun more than 3 times.

He’s more durable than you think.

I know how durable supes is but I also know that he is far from being invulnerable as people say that he is. I have seen superman take nukes and I have also seen superman hurt by minor things, example: have you heard of a character named sharpnel, he was shooting razors at superman, superman screams in pain, then he over comes the pain and beat sharpnel. Nukes>>>>anything that sharpnel can dish out.

His durability is inconsistent. Another example (cant think of his name right now to sleepy and i dont feel like going to get the comic. I know someone will put a sarcastic post up and help me out) but hes a lantern, he hits superman with a blast that momentarily knocks superman out for about a couple of seconds and steps on his head. The blast didnt destroying anything in the surrounding area but superman was unconcious. Nukes would have leveled that entire area. Superman durability isnt stable and I really dont know what he can take due to inconstance but I do think that nukes would hurt him

Originally posted by carver9
I know how durable supes is but I also know that he is far from being invulnerable as people say that he is. I have seen superman take nukes and I have also seen superman hurt by minor things, example: have you heard of a character named sharpnel, he was shooting razors at superman, superman screams in pain, then he over comes the pain and beat sharpnel. Nukes>>>>anything that sharpnel can dish out.

His durability is inconsistent. Another example (cant think of his name right now to sleepy and i dont feel like going to get the comic. I know someone will put a sarcastic post up and help me out) but hes a lantern, he hits superman with a blast that momentarily knocks superman out for about a couple of seconds and steps on his head. The blast didnt destroying anything in the surrounding area but superman was unconcious. Nukes would have leveled that entire area. Superman durability isnt stable and I really dont know what he can take due to inconstance but I do think that nukes would hurt him

Sharpnel didn’t even cause Superman to bleed. The only time he made Superman “Scream out in pain” was after someone else released some kind of toxic mist designed to hurt Superman. Those razors his body is made up of isn’t some regular metal either. Superman’s durability is more consistent that you think. You just pick out a few of his low showings while ignoring all of his other showings. The majority of the time nukes have not hurt him.

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Sharpnel didn’t even cause Superman to bleed. The only time he made Superman “Scream out in pain” was after someone else released some kind of toxic mist designed to hurt Superman. Those razors his body is made up of isn’t some regular metal either. Superman’s durability is more consistent that you think. You just pick out a few of his low showings while ignoring all of his other showings. The majority of the time nukes have not hurt him.

I said that I dont know his durability because its inconsitant. Another example. During the imperiex saga superman fought a probe that took like half of kansas when it landed on earth. When superman destroyed the probe, the blast from the probe hurt superman bad and he was down in that hole for a while before flying out. Now I know that your not going to tell me that the blast that superman took that hurt him from the imperiex probe is more power than what a nuke can give off.

Originally posted by carver9
I said that I dont know his durability because its inconsitant. Another example. During the imperiex saga superman fought a probe that took like half of kansas when it landed on earth. When superman destroyed the probe, the blast from the probe hurt superman bad and he was down in that hole for a while before flying out. Now I know that your not going to tell me that the blast that superman took that hurt him from the imperiex probe is more power than what a nuke can give off.

Of course the probe had more energy in it than a nuke. It was getting its power from Imperiex. You know the guy who sucked planets, stars, and galaxies whole. Hell, one Imperix probe sent Mongul from War World to Earth.

Originally posted by carver9
When superman gets close to the sun and gets more powerful>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the suns pressure. The sun pressure wont have any kind of affect on superman if hes getting more powerful by the second.

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Of course the probe had more energy in it than a nuke. It was getting its power from Imperiex. You know the guy who sucked planets, stars, and galaxies whole. Hell, one Imperix probe sent Mongul from War World to Earth.

And one imperiex probe exploded on wonder woman and she survived. Do you also think that she can take a nuke. A imperiex probe exploded on aquaman and he survived, do you think that he can take a nuke also. Black lightning was in front of imperiex probe and he had no affect BUT superman was injured. From what I have seen of a blast from a probe, I dont think that the power comes close to rivaling that of a nuke. Just my opinion, you might be right. Also, you didnt have to explain who imperex is, almost everyone on the forum knows him.

Originally posted by carver9
And one imperiex probe exploded on wonder woman and she survived. Do you also think that she can take a nuke. A imperiex probe exploded on aquaman and he survived, do you think that he can take a nuke also. Black lightning was in front of imperiex probe and he had no affect BUT superman was injured. From what I have seen of a blast from a probe, I dont think that the power comes close to rivaling that of a nuke. Just my opinion, you might be right. Also, you didnt have to explain who imperex is, almost everyone on the forum knows him.

Wonder Woman survive a nuke? Sure, she’s got some insane durability, surviving a FTL punch and all.

Aquaman survive a nuke? I’m not too sure. I don’t much about the character. I’ll probably go through his respect thread and get back to you. But I remember Aquaman wearing some special amour while fighting the Imperiex probe.

I don’t know what happened with Black Lightning so I can’t comment on that.

If an Imperix probe can destroy most of Kansas then it’s definitely packing more power than a nuke. A Nuclear missile is capable of destroying a city, Kansas is full of cities. So destroying most of Kansas would put a probe at higher level than a nuke.

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Wonder Woman survive a nuke? Sure, she’s got some insane durability, surviving a FTL punch and all.

Aquaman survive a nuke? I’m not too sure. I don’t much about the character. I’ll probably go through his respect thread and get back to you. But I remember Aquaman wearing some special amour while fighting the Imperiex probe.

I don’t know what happened with Black Lightning so I can’t comment on that.

If an Imperix probe can destroy most of Kansas then it’s definitely packing more power than a nuke. A Nuclear missile is capable of destroying a city, Kansas is full of cities. So destroying most of Kansas would put a probe at higher level than a nuke.

i guess you didnt see that part. I wasnt the blast that destroyed kansas. Imperex landed in kansas and the impact once he hit the earth took out kansas. He didnt shoot anything out.

Your a strong debater you know that. I respect you for that because you havent given up yet. I kind of listen to the post that you make because majority of the time it does make sense (actually a lot of the time). But I would like for you to give up on this one and just let me win.

Originally posted by carver9
But I would like for you to give up on this one and just let me win.

Originally posted by carver9
But I would like for you to give up on this one and just let me win.

hysterical

Originally posted by carver9
i guess you didnt see that part. I wasnt the blast that destroyed kansas. Imperex landed in kansas and the impact once he hit the earth took out kansas. He didnt shoot anything out.

That’s even more impressive. Simply landing on Kansas and destroying most of it beats destroying most of with energy blasts.

Just let me have this one win Jebus reborn and I watch Pokemon. I know deep down in side you feel that Im right. Its not hard to say, just say "carver you won this time, if superman takes any nukes to the chest his ribs might pop out of the side of his back."

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
hysterical

I wasnt trying to be funny. 😠

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
That’s even more impressive. Simply landing on Kansas and destroying most of it beats destroying most of with energy blasts.

but that dont have anything to do with the blast that superman took from imperex and a blast from a nuke. To many people survived that blast for you to say that it pack more power or even close to the power of a nuke.

Originally posted by carver9
Just let me have this one win Jebus reborn and I watch Pokemon. I know deep down in side you feel that Im right. Its not hard to say, just say "carver you won this time, if superman takes any nukes to the chest his ribs might pop out of the side of his back."

No. 😆

Originally posted by carver9
Just let me have this one win Jebus reborn and I watch Pokemon. I know deep down in side you feel that Im right. Its not hard to say, just say "carver you won this time, if superman takes any nukes to the chest his ribs might pop out of the side of his back."

Since, you have ignored this comment a couple times...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Except a red sun drains him from his powers, and severely weakens him, and yet, he went right through the f*cker!
The sun's pressure will have more, and more effect on him, when he's getting weaker by the second.
Not only is it his duribility, but it's his duribility, that was lowered.
Dur!

Why would I give up, or him?

Originally posted by carver9
but that dont have anything to do with the blast that superman took from imperex and a blast from a nuke. To many people survived that blast for you to say that it pack more power or even close to the power of a nuke.

As soon as an Imperiex Probe’s energy is released it returns to Imperiex Prime’s ship. It only makes sense that the energy doesn’t have enough time to spread outwards before returning to Imperiex Prime.

Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
As soon as an Imperiex Probe’s energy is released it returns to Imperiex Prime’s ship. It only makes sense that the energy doesn’t have enough time to spread outwards before returning to Imperiex Prime.

You do know that the same blast that hurt superman the probes was using that power to try and destroy the ship that was in space and it took time. I dont think imperex gave them enough energy to match a nuke.