Originally posted by CreshoskTrue omnipotence would allow you to accomplish anything, [in the litteral sense]...
Wouldn't true omnipotence allow you to limit yourself as well?The power to have and the power to not have? You don't need to take omniscience if you dont want it. because if you have no say, no choice no power in a given matter then aren't you missing something thus unavble to have true omnipotence?
Weakening yourself falls into this vast catagory as well.
Originally posted by llagrokI didn't say that... try to understand my words next time. I said a person without omnipotence, wouldn't know if USING the powers would be right, because they wouldn't know all the consequences of their actions.
Like you said yourself earlier, how would you know that not using it is right? If you had omnipotence, you would have no way of knowing whether or not it's right to use it.
Originally posted by Galan007And thus I'd refuse omniscience. Since it doesn't come default with Omnipotence, unlike the other way around where a rperson would know how to do everything.
True omnipotence would allow you to accomplish anything, [in the litteral sense]...Weakening yourself falls into this vast catagory as well.
Originally posted by CreshoskI never said that you had to be omniscient if you were omnipotent.... Just that omnipotence would beget omniscience. 🙂
And thus I'd refuse omniscience. Since it doesn't come default with Omnipotence, unlike the other way around where a rperson would know how to do everything.
One could argue that having power over all things without complete knowledge could result in an inability to control your power ending in the complete annihilation of all creation. 🙂
In other words, having the ability to do something doesn't mean you have the knowledge to do it correctly. having the knowledge of how to do something doesn't mean you are capable of doing it.
I am physically capable of rebuilding the engine in a car, but I've got no f-ing clue how. I know HOW to pick up a boulder (get a firm grip, lift with your legs) but I can't.
Having the power to give yourself complete knowledge of all things doesn't mean you know how to do it.
There is also the question of whether or not omnipotence actually enables you to do the impossible. What I mean by that is; Are you an external force that gives birth to creation (in which case you decide what is an is not possible), Are YOU all of creation, or are you an extremely powerful being that exists within creation (in which case you would be restricted by natural laws, ya know physics n' s**t).
Your answer to that question might answer whether or not omnipotence as you see it is capable of being contained in a physical body and a brain that functions similar to that of human (personally, I say F_ No).
Ya, see what I'm gettin at here? What you're asking for if you're asking for omnipotence, it to be God (this isn't an argument for or against the existence of a supreme being, so stuff it) not A god, but The God, because there can obviously be only one Omnipotent being.
Ok fine, but then you're not a person any more, which means your priorities are significantly different from the humble concerns of even the most altruistic (and dude I swear to whatever feels like listening, if you go to dictionary.com to get the meaning of that word I'm gonna reach across space and time to choke the s**t out of you) human being.
So, I'm kinda thinkin that talking about what you'd do if you were God, is sort of a...what's the word... complete f-ing waste of time (which is why I'm here by the way 🙂), and an attempt to cheat and not actually pick just ONE superpower as your favorite.
MSAE ALOIR MN ALHRB ALA?LI? ALIRAQI?
Originally posted by Creshosk
I didn't say that... try to understand my words next time. I said a person without omnipotence, wouldn't know if USING the powers would be right, because they wouldn't know all the consequences of their actions.
Drop the attitude.
If an a person without omnipotence wouldn't know if using their powers is right, then you wouldn't know that not using your powers is right. Nor would an omnipotent person know, unless they were omniscient 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Not necessarilythat it would, but it could.
I never said that you had to be omniscient if you were omnipotent.... Just that omnipotence would beget omniscience. 🙂
Originally posted by GenoshaThat's assuming you lose your sense of self and become consumed by them.
One could argue that having power over all things without complete knowledge could result in an inability to control your power ending in the complete annihilation of all creation. 🙂In other words, having the ability to do something doesn't mean you have the knowledge to do it correctly. having the knowledge of how to do something doesn't mean you are capable of doing it.
I am physically capable of rebuilding the engine in a car, but I've got no f-ing clue how. I know HOW to pick up a boulder (get a firm grip, lift with your legs) but I can't.
Having the power to give yourself complete knowledge of all things doesn't mean you know how to do it.
There is also the question of whether or not omnipotence actually enables you to do the impossible. What I mean by that is; Are you an external force that gives birth to creation (in which case you decide what is an is not possible), Are YOU all of creation, or are you an extremely powerful being that exists within creation (in which case you would be restricted by natural laws, ya know physics n' s**t).
Your answer to that question might answer whether or not omnipotence as you see it is capable of being contained in a physical body and a brain that functions similar to that of human (personally, I say F_ No).
Ya, see what I'm gettin at here? What you're asking for if you're asking for omnipotence, it to be God (this isn't an argument for or against the existence of a supreme being, so stuff it) not A god, but The God, because there can obviously be only one Omnipotent being.
Ok fine, but then you're not a person any more, which means your priorities are significantly different from the humble concerns of even the most altruistic (and dude I swear to whatever feels like listening, if you go to dictionary.com to get the meaning of that word I'm gonna reach across space and time to choke the s**t out of you) human being.
So, I'm kinda thinkin that talking about what you'd do if you were God, is sort of a...what's the word... complete f-ing waste of time (which is why I'm here by the way 🙂), and an attempt to cheat and not actually pick just ONE superpower as your favorite.
MSAE ALOIR MN ALHRB ALA?LI? ALIRAQI?
Though I'm pretty sure that being able to do anything even low scale would be breaking the laws of physics, from something as simple as "bending" matter. Or flying, or shooting fire out of your hands. The laws of nature dictate that people cannot do that.
And as I said before mine would take the form of reality control. There have been several characters, mutants even, with this ability.
From as grand scale as Wanda. To lower levels like Gaia. they even existed at the same time. so I have to disagree with the only one omnipotent being conclusion, and that its not a legitimate super power.
And with the examples given (especially Gaia) you wouldn't necessarily become THE God or even A god. Nor would you necessarily lose your humanity.
Originally posted by llagrokIf you don't know if you should or not, chances are you shouldn't. the consequences of not would be the same as you not having them (no different from now.) The consequences of you doing so could be far graver.
Drop the attitude.If an a person without omnipotence wouldn't know if using their powers is right, then you wouldn't know that not using your powers is right. Nor would an omnipotent person know, unless they were omniscient 🙂
so I'm new...bored...and baiscally here to say that there are a few powers that peak my qweenly interest!
Morphing into an animal, Intangability, Invisability, showdow melding ( to hide in anothers shadow would pwn) I mean, I can be pleased with very little...but one thing I do need, is powers with stealth
that's my 2 cents for what it's worth
Originally posted by llagrokThen don't try to pull one over on me like that. Let this be a lesson to you, you never know who'll understand you when you try to be an elitest with your language. I know more than you think I do. So don't insult me with an implication against what I do or do not know. I do know that not using it, it'd be like you didn't have the power. Using it you could do more harm than good.
Don't call me an *******, *******.
Got it, apekatt?