Anakin(Rots) switches places with Luke

Started by darthsith192 pages

Originally posted by kamikz
He was concentrating at Luke, he was right about to shoot him. It was just like how Sidious, the most powerful sith lord of all time, didn't sense Vader attacking him.

He should have still been able to sense Han with the Force, especially after the guy next to him yelled "Look out!". Sidious was already using the Force on Luke, and couldn't use the Force at two times, both to sense Vader and to attack Luke. Plus, Vader missed Luke when he shot at him. The first time he hit R2, the second time he just plain missed. Anakin would have owned Luke.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Just like he sensed the ray shields?

It wasn't at attack, and even if he had sensed them it would have been hard to dodge. Plus he wasn't worried about it, as they wanted to get Grievous anyways, and this was the quickest way, and it has nothing to do with his piloting skills.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
And what direction could he go to evade it? While distracted.

Move to the side. The top, do a flip and land behind Solo, anything. have you watched him evade Asajj in the CW cartoon? It's not hard for someone like Anakin to dodge laser bolts in a starfighter, but, apparently, vader is incapable of doing it...

Originally posted by darthsith19
He should have still been able to sense Han with the Force, especially after the guy next to him yelled "Look out!". Sidious was already using the Force on Luke, and couldn't use the Force at two times, both to sense Vader [b]and to attack Luke. Plus, Vader missed Luke when he shot at him. The first time he hit R2, the second time he just plain missed. Anakin would have owned Luke.
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No, it is apparent that Vader did not sense him, we get to see exactly what Vader does, and all he does is talking to himself as he gets 1 second away from killing Luke. Seriously, he was focusing on destroying the only ship that was a threat to the death star, which would kill the rebellion forever, I THINK he would be focused on him, instead of some ship that his conpanions should've looken out for. This has NOTHING to do with his piloting skills, cause he never even TRIED to dodge the attack.

I mean, it's like saying Aayla Secura is a sucky jedi, cause she never even lifted her saber against the clones, or that Plo Koon sucks as a pilot, because the clones killed him easily as hell. Neither expected an attack and both was focused on other things.

Yes, it is apparent that Vader didn't sense him, which downplays Vader. What good is concentrating 100% on Luke going to be if he isn't going to notice when someone sneaks up and attacks him from behind? So what if Luke is a threat to the death star, it isn't going to do Vader any good to not focus on other fighters as well.

I mean, it's like saying Aayla Secura is a sucky jedi, cause she never even lifted her saber against the clones, or that Plo Koon sucks as a pilot, because the clones killed him easily as hell. Neither expected an attack and both was focused on other things.

Bad comparisons - Vader knew that there were fighters out there still that wanted to kill him. Aayla never thought that her Clones would turn against her, and she could have sensed danger and have been looking for battle droids, not realizing where it was coming from.

Same with Koon, he had no reason to expect his Clones to turn on him, and he did sense it right before he died, he just didn't have time to do anything about it. Plus Vader is stronger then either of these 2.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, it [b]is apparent that Vader didn't sense him, which downplays Vader. What good is concentrating 100% on Luke going to be if he isn't going to notice when someone sneaks up and attacks him from behind? So what if Luke is a threat to the death star, it isn't going to do Vader any good to not focus on other fighters as well.

Bad comparisons - Vader knew that there were fighters out there still that wanted to kill him. Aayla never thought that her Clones would turn against her, and she could have sensed danger and have been looking for battle droids, not realizing where it was coming from.

Same with Koon, he had no reason to expect his Clones to turn on him, and he did sense it right before he died, he just didn't have time to do anything about it. Plus Vader is stronger then either of these 2. [/B]

No, wtf, Vader couldn't have done anything anyway. He would have crashed with his ships, or the walls, if he tried to avoid it. And we have seen several people not sensing things because of concentration. That isn't bad, unless you say Vader is a bad force user, which could be the only explenation. (then you're stupid).

No, Vader didn't know there were anymore fighters out there, Luke was the only one left, he felt a sickly strong potential from him, thus wanted to kill him, and he was the ONLY threat to the death star, and damn close to blowing it up.
Vader had no reason to expect being shot at, since there were about hundreds of other fighters, all enemy ships were dead, and his two personal fighters beside him, as well as the whole freakin station looking out with gun cannons. He said he would handle Luke, what's he gonna do? Avoid it and go after Han (he clearly can't go back on aiming on Luke if Han is shooting his ass of), thus Luke destroying the death star?

Yeah, we saw that Vader couldn't do shit against it, doesn't mean he is a freakin worse pilot than Anakin, because he was focusing so much on a lone ship containing one jedi with stronger potential than Sidious, about to blow up the death star, and he had him right in his aim. You have no proof except this thing that would put ROTS Anakin above him, and that is lame, since this isn't a proof at all, it's just a one time instance from the movies that HAD to be done. The fact that Vader was just about to press the button supports this, he wasn't even steering the ship at that time, he was about to fire both his weapons, he clearly didn't have time to dodge two blaster bolts sent for him anyway, no one would in that situation.