Protoss do look incredible so far, but i reckon blizzard know how to angle it, and i dont really care myself, simply because i have more fun fighting the AI, and imbalances rarely make the AI too strong, only human opponents take advantage of certain imbalances
still id still like to see a big fat Zerg beast, looking forward to see if they get a superunit, i reckon the Terrans are would have a super battlecruiser or a Goliath like unit for a super
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Perhaps. But if they are only giving Protoss the one big unit that would break it. I guess I'll just have to see and hope they don't do what they did last Starcraft. (the game was excellent, but the protoss were a bit overpowered for a long time).
Why the heck would that break it?
Besides, it was the Zerg that overpowered in SC originally. Zergling rush dominated the competitive game.
Originally posted by UshgarakIt would break it if the other races didn't get one.
Why the heck would that break it?Besides, it was the Zerg that overpowered in SC originally. Zergling rush dominated the competitive game.
Before the patches they were both overpowered. But after the patches Zerg was weak, Marines were in just the original. Some P-toss combinations couldn't be touched by Zerg.
Originally posted by Bruce Leeroy
About 50,000 people do, yeah 😬And it's not like theres much of the concept you can change for an RTS in the first place.
hes right, what new concept could one possibly change?, especially for a classic, you could not change this game for the better i doubt it, certain things people can think of would prob be fun but usually usless, imbalancing or impossible things
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It would break it if the other races didn't get one.Before the patches they were both overpowered. But after the patches Zerg was weak, Marines were in just the original. Some P-toss combinations couldn't be touched by Zerg.
No it would not break it if the other races did not get one. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
It's just one unit. So long as its value is proportionate to its resource cost, the fact that it is a unique thing that only Protoss gets makes absolutely no comment about balance at all.
Really, that criticism makes not the slightest bit of sense.
if it was a free unit, then it would break balance. If its cost was disproportioante to its danger, it woild break balance. But it is just a big unit that they happen to only be able to buy one of. That breaks nothing. Very simply, the equivalent multiple units of same resource cost that other races get should be of equal value, simple as that.
Like anything, if the unit is balanced, the game is not unbalanced.
Originally posted by Phat J
so is this the one out for the 360 right now?
There is no StarCraft out for the 360 at all. And there wont be. StarCraft Ghost was "indefinitely postponed" (A.K.A. Cancelled) and Blizzard confirmed that StarCraft II will be PC/iMac only. No consoles, sorry. This game shouldn't be on the consoles anyways.
Originally posted by UshgarakIts powers did seem overpowered (which they said they were working on), and my comment wasn't specifically to that concept it was to the overall race in general. My point was that giving a race one particular unit like that and not the others would change balance because it would change an interface of gameplay and give that race options that the other races didn't have. If anyone hadn't noticed, this time around the units are more "rock-paper-scissors" than in the last game. This Starcraft had units that were specifically created to counter other units and nothing else. Like the reapers countering the immortals. This unit seemed like it didn't have a "counter unit". It would be the thing that would be taken down by a vast number of units or a large combination of them.
No it would not break it if the other races did not get one. That makes absolutely no sense at all.It's just one unit. So long as its value is proportionate to its resource cost, the fact that it is a unique thing that only Protoss gets makes absolutely no comment about balance at all.
Really, that criticism makes not the slightest bit of sense.
if it was a free unit, then it would break balance. If its cost was disproportioante to its danger, it woild break balance. But it is just a big unit that they happen to only be able to buy one of. That breaks nothing. Very simply, the equivalent multiple units of same resource cost that other races get should be of equal value, simple as that.
Like anything, if the unit is balanced, the game is not unbalanced.
That's just like if the Protoss had an addition 10 or 20 units it would become increasingly imbalanced because they would have more options. Hence the reason they generally make counterparts to certain units and give them roles on similar parts of the tech tree.
Siege Tank=Reaver=Lurker. Etc.
But I'm not sure the development of the game, I was saying what I saw from the video. At that point it seemed the protoss was. In short I guess it just needs more time.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
There is no StarCraft out for the 360 at all. And there wont be. StarCraft Ghost was "indefinitely postponed" (A.K.A. Cancelled) and Blizzard confirmed that StarCraft II will be PC/iMac only. No consoles, sorry. This game shouldn't be on the consoles anyways.
I hope Ghost somehow gets put back into production because the game sounded awesome.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it would not break it if the other races did not get one. That makes absolutely no sense at all.It's just one unit. So long as its value is proportionate to its resource cost, the fact that it is a unique thing that only Protoss gets makes absolutely no comment about balance at all.
Really, that criticism makes not the slightest bit of sense.
if it was a free unit, then it would break balance. If its cost was disproportioante to its danger, it woild break balance. But it is just a big unit that they happen to only be able to buy one of. That breaks nothing. Very simply, the equivalent multiple units of same resource cost that other races get should be of equal value, simple as that.
Like anything, if the unit is balanced, the game is not unbalanced.
That unit in and of itself can easily be the deciding factor in any battle. There are many other things to consider in balance other than just cost and destructive capacity. The mothership by itself introduces not only an addition to the protoss arsenal, but an addition to the protoss strategy and it essentially adds a new concept to the game. Similar to heroes in warcraft (but obviously not of the same magnitude). What you basically have is a one man army that can change your ability to fight from "nothing" to "substantial" the instant it comes out of the factory. And you can hide it too. If no one knows you have one you have a lot of leverage. I don't know about you, but to me, that spells out "trump card".
And yes if the races are to be balanced, all of them need a trump card or none of them do.