So i just brought this game in retail form and now waiting on the 14 gig update....ugh
i've been reading this update has something to do with it being the HOTS portion & if i brought HOTS i would get Wings of Liberty with it......So i want to know if i got HOTS would i still go through getting this damn 14 gig update?
Legacy of the Void opening cinematic:
dat probe.
Release date November 10th. ****, that's sooner than I was expecting.
I guess they don't care that Fallout 3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider are being released at the same time.
I remember being so ****ing excited for Starcraft 2 but for some reason, I didn't buy Heart of the Swarm until at least a year after it came out.
Not sure why I'm not too exicted for this. Maybe because I forgot what the hell happened during both games.
Originally posted by Smasandian
I guess they don't care that Fallout 3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider are being released at the same time.I remember being so ****ing excited for Starcraft 2 but for some reason, I didn't buy Heart of the Swarm until at least a year after it came out.
Not sure why I'm not too exicted for this. Maybe because I forgot what the hell happened during both games.
Fallout 4 😛
TBH, I don't think Blizzard has to worry about Tomb Raider. Fallout yes, but I can see the game outselling Tomb Raider.
Originally posted by Smasandian
I remember being so ****ing excited for Starcraft 2 but for some reason, I didn't buy Heart of the Swarm until at least a year after it came out..
I was kinda the same way, except that by the time SCII really did come out, and it took a tortuously long time, my interest was already fading- if Wings of Liberty hadn't had a decent single player campaign, I would probably have forgotten it entirely.
The thing is, if you are into the hyper-competitive scene (particularly 1v1), then SC2 is perfect for you. If you are not... then it really doesn't have that much to offer. A decent, but not legendary, single player experience (and Heart of the Swarm was less good, campaign wise), and then you move onto other games.
If SC2 had come out in, say, 2005 (and let's not forget that's 7 years after the original), it likely would have had a much larger impact in my life. When it DID come out, yeah, I enjoyed it, as it went, but there was a big feeling that it didn't seem worth the wait- there was nothing about it stopping it coming out years earlier.
The AI is boring to play against so it has no other longevity. If I want to do some AI fighting in an RTS, alone or with friends, I'll play Company of Heroes (these days, CoH2).
So like you, I was in no hurry to buy HotS, and ditto here. I'll buy it some time when things seem quiet.
EDIT: I see we had pretty much an identical convo in this thread two years ago...
Hahah, that's funny, hahaha.
I will probably do what you are going to do. Buy it next year. It's just too bad that Activision doesn't really lower prices that much.
But I will say that game like SC2 doesn't come out that much anymore. How many base building RTS games are there? I know Eugen Systems just released Act of Aggression but it's not really the same thing.
I replayed the first game before I bought HotS and the single-player was still pretty good. Not as legendary as the original but some scenarios were still kind of neat.
Well definitely a 'thank god for Relic' when it comes to RTS games. Looking back at my unreasonable levels of anger years ago in this thread, it came out of a frustration of knowing I really wanted to like SCII but the high micro/click/e-sports schtick meant it just wasn't going to be the game I wanted.
So Relic filled the gap with DoW (DoW2 blew it in the end with atrocious AI programming- SCII may be dull AI wise but it at least functions) and CoH- but beyond that there's ot much choice these days, and coming as someone who came into the genre at Dune 2 on the Amiga in the early 90, it's a shame.
Sins of a Solar Empire isn't bad, though I've not played enough of it.
There was an awesome idea for a space RTS called AI War- you can get it plus copious expansions on Steam- which is a ground up 'players vs. the AI only' game. It'sbased on the principle that AI in RTS can never emulate players properly, so instead they made an RTS game where the AI actually plays to a completely different set of rules (you play as a human resistance fighting against computer AI robot oppressors) to humans and sets the human players the challenge of beating it.
One of the best ideas I ever heard and a fundamentally better way to think about AI design than trying to emulate a human. But the game itself is fiddly, unintuitive, and takes far too long to play; I could not get my friends interested. Shame. Someone should take the idea and put it in something more accessible.
Sins of Solar Empire is slow. I could never get into it. It tried to blend a Civ game with RTS and it turned out to be weak RTS and weak Civ game. It's alright. Battles took too long and I always found the battles to be capital ship vs captial ship. It just wasn't exicting.
CoH (which is one of my favourite games of all time) had tanks rolling in, artillary barrages, squads taking cover in buildings and so forth and there was strategy and exictment. I also found the SP campaign to be incredible fun. There is something to it when you are moving around and come across a King Tiger tank and you run away like bitches while your tank shells are harmlessly pinging off of it.
But I did get into Wargame: Red Dragon a lot when it came out. I played the first two (European Escalation and AirLand Battle) but they fixed the campaigns just enough to make it fun. It's hard to describe but the game is very daunting (you have know what unit types, what type of ammunition, how it targets enemies, range and how it operates and etc..) but after playing the first two, I found put it all together and it was great. I could make decisions like sending in the radar destroying airplanes to destory the few AA guns they have then creating 2/3 smart bomb planes to then destory the tanks that are slowly eliminating my tanks....but watch out, they brought in their air to air planes who then got shot down my AA guns... and then I baited their tanks to drive through a forest that is filled with anti tank infantry who destory the column. It was pretty damn fun. I'm hoping Eugen creates another game in that franchise.
Interesting! If I as not in a self-imposed new games moratorium due to real life commitments I;d check it out- but I'll put it next to Legacy of the Void for the future list.
I wouldn't mind Blizzard trying a Warcraft IV either- IF they intentionally take it in a different direction from Starcraft. That is what different franchises are for.
The CoH franchise remains excellent as ever- I've been learning how to play the new British faction in recent days. CoH2 has now rather weirdly come full circle back to being far more like the original, with all the factions and style there from before, just with Russians as well. After the metacritic review bomb resulting from their Russian campaign, I think they have been quietly retreating from the whole Eastern Front thing for a while.
Hahaha, I enjoyed CoH2 but not as much as first. I don't play MP at all. Not good at it and I like to take my time.
As for Red Dragon, I forgot to mention that I could only do all of that because my recon units were in place and that the units were supplied by supply trucks. This also includes the campaign map where it moved the correct amounts of units to counter what they had.
It's a pretty fantastic game. You can get it on Steam for probably $10 bucks on sale.
Originally posted by SmasandianNew Vegas was pretty ****ing awesome too.
Yeah, give me credit. For 7 years, saying Fallout usually followed up with a 3...hahaha.You are probably right. I just think it's a bit much that 3 games are coming out on the same week. It will probably outsell but I don't know if it will be talked about as much Rise of the Tomb Raider.
The way it's priced now-a-days makes it an instant buy.
They said that they may do a WC4 once SC2 is done, so now. That would be great, hopefully they do keep it feeling a lot different from SC2. Hopefully they retain the slower pace that WC3 has than SC2, and the way that it takes a lot longer for a unit to die.
As far as SC2 goes, I was extremely excited for Wings of Liberty. I really enjoyed the campaign and actually got really into the multiplayer for several months, getting to the highest league at the time. Then I just kinda burned out and when HotS came out, I bought it and played the campaign, diddled with the MP, and that was it. This time, I'm not feeling very excited. I didn't like the campaign as much in HotS as I did in Wings, though that may have something to do with the fact that I don't like Zerg very much. I'll get this at some point, probably not a launch though.