Superman Prime vs Trion Juggernaut

Started by masterbruce4 pages

Originally posted by Galan007

After S1M let down his FV, he never tried to finish off Solaris because he thought Prime had just been murdered.

Now that much IS a fact. 😉

I still don't get this.

S1M thought Prime was dead...so that caused him to allow Solaris to live and possibly reenergize and destroy the entire universe? hmmmm....doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the more sensible approach for S1M be to make sure to kill Solaris now that he thought Prime wouldn't be here to save the day? yeah...exactly

Originally posted by Galan007
Solaris wasn't exploding in the "kaboom" sense. 😂

Kyle attempted to pin Solaris in that GL construct, and it was expelling energy in all directions to break free, [hence the "exploding" quote].

Okay sure that may be true, it's doing something that's for sure, but the only thing that S1M does is help Kyle contain it. He says his concentration has to stay focused until Solaris safely exhaust his fury and hydrogen. Says nothing about hurting him. Neither Kyle or S1M are hurting it at all. Containing it doesn't = Hurting it.

Also didn't S1M just punch through the time barrier and see that happening?

Jusr for notes ...

And Superman Prime was stated to be the most powerful meta-human, so he would surpass Superman 1M.

Stated sure but Sentry was also stated to have beaten Galactus. So that can't really be used. And what is he punching through?

What has trion done?

SBP powers a entire dynasty of overpowered Supermen heralds.

Superman 1M's power is nothing compared to Primes.

Not all feats have to involve fists, and beams.

Trion is Cyttorack manifested, he would probably par with Galactus.

Is that assumed or on panel??

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And Superman Prime was stated to be the most powerful meta-human, so he would surpass Superman 1M.

UltimateWolverine was called the most dangerous man on the planet like six times. The same was said about UltHulk and has been said about 616Namor.

Geez I guess everyone is the most powerful in the omni/multi/hyper/mega/polyverse.

can anybody show me feats of superman prime? anything that can put him up to his hype? if not, than he's a joke.

Originally posted by TheGame17
can anybody show me feats of superman prime? anything that can put him up to his hype? if not, than he's a joke.

In the respect threads forum the JLA 1 million has a thread. Every panel that he has every appeared in is there. (about 7 scans of him)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In the respect threads forum the JLA 1 million has a thread. Every panel that he has every appeared in is there. (about 7 scans of him)

thanks.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Wouldn't the more sensible approach for S1M be to make sure to kill Solaris now that he thought Prime wouldn't be here to save the day? yeah...exactly
If you thought your father had just been killed, you would be in shock.

One of your last concerns would be an all but dead killer. 😬

Originally posted by Kento
Okay sure that may be true, it's doing something that's for sure, but the only thing that S1M does is help Kyle contain it. He says his concentration has to stay focused until Solaris safely exhaust his fury and hydrogen. Says nothing about hurting him. Neither Kyle or S1M are hurting it at all. Containing it doesn't = Hurting it.
What would happen to a Sun if it had no oxygen to continue combustion?

It would burn out/die. ✅

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Superman 1M's power is nothing compared to Primes.
Based on what?

Certainly not on panel feats...

Originally posted by Galan007
Based on what?

Certainly not on panel feats...

What about when he grabbed Atom1M from another dimension in a split second?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What about when he grabbed Atom1M from another dimension in a split second?
We never saw how that was accomplished.

It may have been with tech, or it may have been with his own power.

Since we don't know, it can't really be classified as a feat. 😬

Last time I checked a sun doesn't use oxygen to burn lol.

Originally posted by Magee
Last time I checked a sun doesn't use oxygen to burn lol.
Well Solaris apparently did, [hence the statement from S1M]. 😄

And since Solaris's near-defeat was the topic at hand, he's the "Sun" I was referring too. 😛

Originally posted by Magee
Last time I checked a sun doesn't use oxygen to burn lol.

Fusion isn't exactly burning in a traditional sense.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Fusion isn't exactly burning in a traditional sense.
Meh, any kind of "burning" is a chemical chain reaction of some sort.

In the case of a real star, hydrogen is converted to helium via a series of nuclear reactions,

Funny thing is, stars do not yield products of combustion in the conventional sense, nor does pyrolysis occur.

This is what differentiates the burning of stars, from me or you burning a piece of paper..... Kind of weird hehe. haermm

Originally posted by Galan007
Certainly not on panel feats...

Feats are a fine way to gauge and they are definitely fun in debates..but let's not get ridiculous.

By what you are going for... Steel > Superman Prime because he(Steel) has more feats.

Are you seriously going to debate that S1M is more powerful than Prime?

SMP can depower 1M anytime he wishes....5th dimensional Imp powers and all.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
SMP can depower 1M anytime he wishes....5th dimensional Imp powers and all.

First of all, we don't know what powers Prime gave to S1M.

However, I'm sure he could take those powers away,

But S1M would still have his Imp-like powers [as those were not given to him by Primey].

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Are you seriously going to debate that S1M is more powerful than Prime?
If Prime still has a weakness to magic.... Absolutely. 🙂