Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
According to the Bible faith is the substance of things hoped for the [B]evidence of things not seen (because our faith is based squarely on the Word of God).Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. [/B]
Can you try and go a few posts without quoting a book of fairytales?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Because it is as unlikely as fairies, dwarfs, hobbits, the easter bunny, martians, unicorns, Superman, dragons and Merlin.It is just unlikely and there is no piece of evidence.
I don't rule out the possibility on a whole, just I wouldn't do with Ghosts, but I won't let it influence my life and it is so unlikely that it is easier to say I am certain they don't exist, because everything you would think of if I said "maybe they do" is soo far from the real possibility that it will just confuse you.
That position is perfectly reasonable.
Originally posted by Boris
Yes I'm aware of what you said, nevertheless it still makes no sense whatsoever.
You are absolutely correct! It does not make "sense" because faith is not sense and sense is not faith. Dogs are dogs, cats are cats, sense is sense and faith is faith. Don't try and commingle the two because they are not the same. It does not make sense, it makes faith.
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Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, though it is not evidence at all. And as I said, you wouldn't understand it. I believe that the Devil does not exist as strongly as I believe that Gravitation will keep me on earth. As strongly as I believe that my mother exists. If you are able to lie to yourself that is okay. I am not.
see? you said "if you are able to lie to yourself". right there. you are claiming that there is no doubt in your mind that the devil does not exist, yet you posted earlier that you cannot disprove it. when are you going to make up your mind?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
as I posted earlier, my faith is evidence to ME. I dont expect you to go by it, and I dont expect you to accept it as evidence.see? you said "if you are able to lie to yourself". right there. you are claiming that there is no doubt in your mind that the devil does not exist, yet you posted earlier that you cannot disprove it. when are you going to make up your mind?
No, I said that I am unable to say that I know anything for certain. Once more you misunderstood what I was saying.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are absolutely correct! It does not make "sense" because faith is not sense and sense is not faith. Dogs are dogs, cats are cats, sense is sense and faith is faith. Don't try and commingle the two because they are not the same. It does not make sense, it makes faith.😄
Yeah, I'm aware that Faith is totally useless and makes no sense at all, no need to tell me that.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Then it is not evidence at all, RJ. It is easy as that. It does not fit the necessary criteria of evidence.No, I said that I am unable to say that I know anything for certain. Once more you misunderstood what I was saying.
I am not a holy roller, I do not preach the gospel, and I sun my ass off. I am not your perfect little chriatian. but I do have a belief structure that I will adhere to for all of my life.
Originally posted by Hydrono
Yes, lets go worship the 200 gram spider elephants and their beaver woman! Faith Brother! Faith! (at least beavers exist...)
Hmmmm.. you're talk of 200g Spider Elephants does seem pretty cool, though I don't think I could ever turn my back on His Holiness The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Pastafarian for life!!!
Originally posted by Rogue JediNo, your conclusion is wrong. Though I feel that you lie to yourself when you say that you are sure the devil exists, I do not imply that the devil does not exist. It is not that hard of a concept really.
you said you didnt rule out the possibility as a whole. by this, you are saying that MAYBE god and the devil coexist. then you told me I am lying to myself for having faith and accepting it as evidence for god and the devils existence. by insinuating that I am lying, you are claiming that there is no god, no devil. see the contradiction?I am not a holy roller, I do not preach the gospel, and I sun my ass off. I am not your perfect little chriatian. but I do have a belief structure that I will adhere to for all of my life.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, your conclusion is wrong. Though I feel that you lie to yourself when you say that you are sure the devil exists, I do not imply that the devil does not exist. It is not that hard of a concept really.
Am I the only one who pities Sammæl - a.k.a., ha-shatan?
The entire concept of him/it confuses me....the theological writings that I have read concerning the Accuser leads me to believe that his true nature (if he exists) is not defined well enough for us to pass any final judgement on him.
In Job, he seems to work in the providence of God - although he is obviously a questionable character, he nonetheless works for God, and can do little if anything not sanctioned by God.
It seems to me that, as time has passed, his character as "the Accuser" (i.e., of Man before God) was transformed into something much more sinister. P'raps I'm wrong, this is just what I've surmised.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are absolutely correct! It does not make "sense" because faith is not sense and sense is not faith. Dogs are dogs, cats are cats, sense is sense and faith is faith. Don't try and commingle the two because they are not the same. It does not make sense, it makes faith.😄
So, what you are telling me is that your faith does not make sense. My faith does make sense. Sorry about you’re faith not making sense. I wish I could help you with that.